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Walter Bellhaven

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Walter Bellhaven

Previous username: The Dan Man
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LDS football recruits are getting better.

bvfcr

10/13/15 11:14am

That's the fact that most CBers downplay when comparing Lavell to Bronco

donnerstag

10/13/15 11:19am

If we could pull recruiting classes like 2014's every year

bvfcr

10/13/15 11:29am

Geoff Martzen said Bronco was the best in-home recruiter on staff

jhingman

10/13/15 11:55am

My perception is that other schools weren't as appealing as BYU was for LDS

ocmyhome

10/13/15 11:38am

No mention of the significant increase in competition for these recruits?

buhler08

10/13/15 11:41am

What makes you conclude that there is more competition for LDS recruits?

donnerstag

10/13/15 12:01pm

Aside from common sense you mean?

buhler08

10/13/15 12:11pm

I agree that it's changed

donnerstag

10/13/15 12:14pm

LaVell could also pitch that they could play for the NC

AzCoug1

10/13/15 12:22pm

TNT would say WRs and DBs recruiting is probably the best it has been

TNT

10/13/15 11:27am

You think they've been recruiting DBs better than LBs?

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 11:41am

He is saying the DB recruits they get now are most likely better than ever

TNT

10/13/15 11:43am

We'd need a coach that works better with 5-Star recruits as well.

Walter Bellhaven

10/13/15 11:29am

Has Bronco ever coached a 5 star recruit?

Blue Cat

10/13/15 11:51am

Heaps

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 11:55am

Ah yes, 5 stars on Scout. 4 stars every place else.

Blue Cat

10/13/15 12:03pm

Whatever you need to do to help your point!

Walter Bellhaven

10/13/15 12:22pm

Yeah huge difference. He was the freakin #1 rated QB on 2 of 3 services.

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 12:32pm

Heaps wasn't the first 5* bust...

deckard667

10/13/15 2:01pm

This isn't a comparison discussion. He's simply asking

southernfriedcougar

10/13/15 2:08pm

I do think there was more to this and that some insinuation that Bronco does not

deckard667

10/13/15 2:42pm

Not sure. He's had opportunities to recruit them but seems to have slipped up a

Walter Bellhaven

10/13/15 11:55am

I doubt we get these types with any consistency until we go P5

Cougar Insider

10/13/15 11:34am

We need to get better recruiting the LDS recruits that don't have mission plans.

Blue Cat

10/13/15 11:54am

names, names please

ChinoCoug

10/13/15 11:56am

RE: names, names please

bvfcr

10/16/15 3:24pm

You don't need P5 Conference affiliation. You need to prove you can develop

Ruby Soho

10/13/15 12:02pm

Study shows P5 affiliation matters, NFL placement doesn't.

ChinoCoug

10/13/15 12:11pm

Is it any coincidence that the best CFB programs happen to be P5's that develop

Ruby Soho

10/13/15 12:34pm

This comment made me smile... Do you really believe this?

shakinbaker

10/13/15 1:13pm

Absolutely, 100%.

Ruby Soho

10/13/15 1:20pm

Developing talent and producing NFL players are two completely different things.

shakinbaker

10/14/15 5:45am

Don't forget the other half of the team which is largely Polynesian.

Ruby Soho

10/14/15 9:31am

You fail to understand that "developing talent" and "producing NFL players" are

shakinbaker

10/14/15 10:01am

All HC's develop players like Bronco, he isn't doing anything unique with the

Ruby Soho

10/14/15 10:21am

Do you think Bronco is a terrific recruiter?

Blue Cat

10/13/15 2:12pm

No, average recruiter, below average talent developer.

Ruby Soho

10/13/15 2:15pm

To me, that doesn't add up.

Blue Cat

10/13/15 2:23pm

70% winning percentage over the past 10 years.

Ruby Soho

10/13/15 2:32pm

Bronco's best seasons were using Crowton recruits

donnerstag

10/13/15 2:40pm

Yes. Bronco did a great job of developing Crowton's recruits.

Blue Cat

10/13/15 2:46pm

So your contention is that Bronco forgot how to develop his own recruits

donnerstag

10/13/15 3:16pm

Like I said before

Blue Cat

10/13/15 4:57pm

Since 2006, Bronco is 28-21 vs. teams that have equal or better talent.

Blue Cat

10/13/15 2:42pm

28-21? You don't say?

Ruby Soho

10/14/15 7:24am

I posted most of the data earlier in the thread.

Blue Cat

10/14/15 8:21am

As there get to be more and more Mormons, this will only happen more

Harrison0Yfan

10/13/15 2:23pm

Only problem is the Mormon Church isn't growing anymore. Static at best at this

Singcat

10/13/15 3:20pm

Mormons ARE growing, just not in the US. We should mine Ghana, Nigeria, Sudan,

ChinoCoug

10/13/15 3:29pm

The church could grow exponentially in Africa

donnerstag

10/13/15 3:36pm

Hmmm..... I think you could be wrong

BYU Grounds

10/13/15 3:32pm

Not true...In the Year 2000 According to the SL Trib the LDS pop in the US

deckard667

10/13/15 3:50pm

The church will always grow in the U.S. due to breeding

donnerstag

10/13/15 3:56pm

Agreed, converts likely static with people going inactive, but overall increase

Harrison0Yfan

10/13/15 10:34pm

Really? Pretty sure it's growing based on the statistics

Harrison0Yfan

10/13/15 10:32pm

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