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Abe Froman

Previous username: Rise and Shout
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My brother points out that the military uses a single payer healthcare plan

OU Cougar

10/25/16 6:26am

Yep. The left used to hold up the VA as the shining example of how well a single

dilbert

10/25/16 6:30am

Technically, VA is single provider and single payer

Linescratcher

10/25/16 7:20am

I slightly disagree. Single-payer can have its issues due to poor administration

TheMaineCougar

10/25/16 7:53am

Obamacare didn't burn anything to the ground. It built it up.

Jeremy

10/25/16 8:25am

That's a fair argument

TheMaineCougar

10/25/16 8:36am

The VA doesn't run the active duty healthcare system. Only retired veterans

TheLoneCougar

10/25/16 8:26am

The gov. also provides healthcare for Native Americans. It's as bad as you'd

Squeegee

10/25/16 6:34am

I loved it before Obamacare when health insurance premiums never increased.

SoCalCoug

10/25/16 6:36am

Obamacare is indefensible. Premiums never increased triple digit percentages

maxpowers

10/25/16 6:47am

Your anecdote does not prove anything.

BYUinNYC

10/25/16 1:27pm

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Abe Froman

10/26/16 7:32am

The true goal of ObamaCare is a single payer system.

Big Time 55

10/25/16 4:45pm

Obamacare will never be successful until a public option is added and therefore

Francisco d'Anconia

10/25/16 11:57pm

and single payer will never be successful...so, now what?

ds7

10/26/16 12:46pm

I disagree with you there. As would the rest Western Civ and then some.

Francisco d'Anconia

10/26/16 12:55pm

you show me where it works...

ds7

10/26/16 6:21pm

Easily explained.

Francisco d'Anconia

10/26/16 7:12pm

what you mean to say is it's "easily destroyed"...and socialized medicine will

ds7

10/26/16 7:37pm

My premium went from $750 to $1500 for next year under Obamacare.

Iman23

10/25/16 7:04am

My premium is going from $195 to $205.

Florwood

10/25/16 7:09am

I assume that your employer is paying the rest, or that you have very crappy

BYUCoug11

10/25/16 7:40am

A would be correct. Still influenced by the world of Obamacare.

Florwood

10/25/16 8:52am

I believe that "crappy" coverage doesn't exist anymore.

Tsisquan

10/25/16 4:56pm

Ah, the old "rates were already increasing, so what's the big deal about raising

workindev

10/25/16 7:07am

You seem to have misspelled "AFFORDABLE Care Act"

cougarmeister

10/25/16 9:49am

Military healthcare only works because the private system is available when

kcca

10/25/16 6:48am

And it is horrible

Littlerich

10/25/16 7:03am

for the majority of cases, though, the military also owns the doctors

byujag

10/25/16 7:05am

Absolutely LOVED the health care we received while on Active Duty.

TheLoneCougar

10/25/16 8:30am

Yes...and you will hate it

byuguns55

10/25/16 7:21am

Absolutely disagree. My Military health care, while on active duty,

TheLoneCougar

10/25/16 8:30am

When setup correctly, single payer works

TheMaineCougar

10/25/16 7:40am

It will never be setup correctly because single payer doesn't work...

HighHorse

10/25/16 7:49am

It does in every other country in the world

TheMaineCougar

10/25/16 7:54am

If you don't mind your parents being denied care, good for you!.....

PhilPete

10/25/16 8:01am

I suppose that's different than not getting coverage because you can't afford it

TheMaineCougar

10/25/16 8:13am

coverage doesn't mean you get care!

PhilPete

10/25/16 8:28am

Yeah not sure what is worse.

TheMaineCougar

10/25/16 8:34am

It is not just cancer. Even common care that is routine is denied to older folks

PhilPete

10/25/16 2:36pm

No it doesn't

HighHorse

10/25/16 8:22am

I've spent close to half my life in Canada, and I love the health care

Lord Emsworth

10/25/16 8:05am

There is much good about it, as long as you don't get too sick....

ByuMba90

10/25/16 8:15am

That's second lowest on OECD healthcare satisfaction. Still way better than US

TheMaineCougar

10/25/16 8:15am

How exactly does the Canadian Health Care System work?

StantonMac

10/25/16 12:37pm

Here's how it works...

WaHooWaCoug

10/25/16 1:04pm

That is a nutso statement... Single Payer lowers quality and raises admin fees

Blue Ghost

10/25/16 8:37am

I lived under a single payer system for over two decades, and I didn't

Lord Emsworth

10/25/16 8:43am

I call bull... I think you support such ideaolgy and therefore ignore the warts

Blue Ghost

10/25/16 12:24pm

Canada would be awesome. #1 Quality of Life

TheMaineCougar

10/25/16 9:00am

But then you'd have to live in Canada.

Beeg

10/25/16 9:02am

Great, enjoy those taxes and the 5 minute doctor visits...

Blue Ghost

10/25/16 12:28pm

Single payer works for other countries because the U.S. subsidizes the world's

preneur

10/25/16 11:59am

Very good point

dilbert

10/25/16 12:49pm

AMEN

Francisco d'Anconia

10/26/16 7:12pm

Yes they do. Look how awesome it is. Lets expand that to everyone! It could only

PhilPete

10/25/16 7:56am

This is a topic that I can discuss as I have had years of first hand experience

TheLoneCougar

10/25/16 8:32am

The military also spends more on health care than the State Dept spends. Like on

Beeg

10/25/16 8:56am

military health care is super frustrating.

macaroni

10/25/16 9:25am

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Wingnut

10/25/16 9:40am

Yeah, the VA system is a stellar example.

kccougar

10/25/16 9:49am

One advangtage Tricare has is its insuring a much healthier pipulation than the

bretonnia

10/25/16 11:12am

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