PSU is not alone in hiding problems to win at all costs, all the top programs do

Jan 3, 2017
9:55:07pm

Celeritas All-American

Our local culture sensationalizes sexual victims over financial ones or over players whose bodies get broken. It's all varied shades of bad. Hard to throw any stones if you ask me.

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Celeritas

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Fight On! Lose forever, Penn State.

purplmonkeydishwashr

1/2/17 7:32pm

Yes, Penn State should've gotten death penalty

Gcouga

1/2/17 7:33pm

Who is/was left to punish?

IGlowInTheDark

1/2/17 7:44pm

Nobody. At this point, it's just blind hatred for no reason.

Game Changer

1/2/17 7:54pm

Easy. The brand, the culture and the money.

BlackBart

1/2/17 8:01pm

Why allow what Sandusky and others did to ruin the lives of other youths?

IGlowInTheDark

1/2/17 8:11pm

To whose future are you referring to?

BlackBart

1/2/17 8:16pm

End of story? Are you telling me you know for a fact that there are zero

Y05

1/3/17 7:04am

Might as well destroy every institution that has had some level of abuse/coverup

buckeyecougarguy

1/3/17 1:45pm

The program

Gcouga

1/2/17 8:02pm

Who is the 'program'?

IGlowInTheDark

1/2/17 8:12pm

The program didn't rape anyone. Sandusky did. And he'll die in prison.

Seaward

1/3/17 12:27am

Exactly. It's a purely emotional reaction, void of any logic. You can't actually

WhiteAndBlue

1/3/17 2:28am

The program created an environment where it was allowed to CONTINUE.

tony

1/3/17 5:55am

But the program is merely the people running it

Y05

1/3/17 6:58am

It's hilarious that you think the 'environment' is unique to Penn State.

Seaward

1/3/17 7:36am

I'm just an observer, but what do you think warrants the death penalty?

MHOP

1/3/17 9:34am

The NCAA has literally 0 jurisdiction in legal matters.

Dissenter

1/3/17 11:35pm

Point to where I said I thought the environment was unique to Penn State.

tony

1/3/17 10:34am

Again, a "program" can't do anything. Only the people running it can. They're

WhiteAndBlue

1/3/17 11:12am

It's this type of thinking that allowed decades of abuse by Catholic Church

Gcouga

1/3/17 2:51pm

Accountability on people who had absolutely nothing to do with it? Again, all

WhiteAndBlue

1/3/17 3:39pm

That accountability is taking place in the form of a life sentence for Sandusky

Seaward

1/3/17 6:54pm

But... Joe Pa is dead and Sandusky is in prison. Assistants were fired...

Dissenter

1/3/17 11:29pm

Institutions need safeguards to stop crap like this or be held accountable

Gcouga

1/4/17 8:40pm

So... If a CEO murders someone

Dissenter

1/5/17 8:22am

Yeah, institutions should be accountable for cover ups and crimes

Gcouga

1/5/17 9:01am

will it not send a message to future coaches and administrators concerning the

MHOP

1/3/17 3:24pm

Can you provide an example of a similar "overreaching reaction" that prevented

WhiteAndBlue

1/3/17 3:43pm

Sound like you are asking for something that can't be obtained

MHOP

1/3/17 4:37pm

So you made a claim, I asked for an example to back up your claim, and you say

WhiteAndBlue

1/3/17 5:01pm

Anytime any team is punished in the NCAA it affects

MHOP

1/3/17 5:24pm

First of all, I think you are seriously misinterpreting the tone of my comments.

WhiteAndBlue

1/3/17 6:14pm

I can see that, my bad for misrepresenting your tone

MHOP

1/3/17 6:28pm

No problem. Tone isn't easily conveyed or interpreted on a message board.

WhiteAndBlue

1/3/17 6:56pm

The program didn't rape anyone but they continue to honor Joe Pa during their

IceCreamButt

1/3/17 1:15pm

Penn State covered up child rape and allowed it to continue

Sumguy

1/4/17 1:56am

This was a stupid opinion then, and it still is now.

Seaward

1/2/17 11:57pm

Penn State's punishment is for the coverup, not the child rape

Sumguy

1/4/17 6:35pm

The football team wasn't involved in the cover-up, either. The football team

Game Changer

1/4/17 6:52pm

It's pretty stupid to say the NCAA can't sanction its members for rule breaking

Sumguy

1/4/17 7:28pm

What part of this is so hard to understand? The football team didn't violate

Game Changer

1/4/17 7:42pm

A football coach at the very least did little to stop a known child rapist from

IceCreamButt

1/4/17 8:03pm

But if you dismiss institutions, leadership won't have reason for safeguards

Gcouga

1/4/17 8:39pm

The players wouldn't be punished, just the university

Sumguy

1/4/17 9:27pm

How long you gonna hold it against players and coaches that had nothing to do

molodyets

1/2/17 7:42pm

I think it has more to do with the institution

Mathew

1/2/17 7:44pm

Agreed. Many folks on CB don't seem to understand that they cleaned house at

Game Changer

1/2/17 7:53pm

Would have been great if they did that from the start

blucoug18

1/2/17 7:58pm

Yes, we all understand and agree that what happened was disgraceful and horrific

Game Changer

1/2/17 8:01pm

RE: Yes, we all understand and agree that what happened was disgraceful and

IceCreamButt

1/3/17 1:14pm

Not surprising. It's the same low IQ, high emotion mob mentality that dominates

UNLVcougar

1/2/17 8:05pm

Not clean enough.

purplmonkeydishwashr

1/2/17 8:22pm

Good thoughts. I didn't think it should have been shuttered

BlackBart

1/2/17 8:27pm

My feeling is that child rape is outside the jurisdiction of the NCAA. Those who

Game Changer

1/2/17 8:39pm

It's their choice to go to Penn State. They deserve all the scorn they get.

purplmonkeydishwashr

1/2/17 8:45pm

Such horrible human beings, chasing their dream of playing college football,

Game Changer

1/2/17 8:48pm

They don't deserve any scorn. The business of penn state football deserved

BlackBart

1/2/17 8:59pm

At any point, are you and the OP going to mention Jerry Sandusky by name?

Seaward

1/3/17 2:00am

Jerry Sandusky did it. I feel no rage for this issue. Read the Freeh report.

BlackBart

1/3/17 10:55am

See above. Did Enron survive despite the collective corruption of a few?

BlackBart

1/2/17 8:05pm

Also the cowardly NCAA in 2014 reversing punishment

BlackBart

1/2/17 8:13pm

Be careful what you wish for

buffgato

1/2/17 10:02pm

and what did I wish for?

BlackBart

1/2/17 10:58pm

Sometimes institutions need to be brought to their knees, and at times, torn apa

buffgato

1/3/17 11:44am

Sorry this happened to your dad. I know many good people that worked at Enron.

BlackBart

1/3/17 12:10pm

I agree that Enron couldn't be saved. I'm just trying to illustrate the fallout

buffgato

1/3/17 3:32pm

Or maybe the most heinous of crimes, like child rape.

SandYFan

1/3/17 2:02pm

They chose to go there. The fault is with them.

purplmonkeydishwashr

1/2/17 8:10pm

By 'there' do you mean a good college in a really good community?

Seaward

1/3/17 12:30am

Wise up. Children were raped as a result of institutional inaction

BlackBart

1/3/17 12:55am

No. Children were raped as a result of Jerry Sandusky raping them.

Seaward

1/3/17 1:34am

Sandusky's culpability goes without saying. He's in jail.

BlackBart

1/3/17 11:04am

I agree with you about people's hypocritical hate for Penn State, but in this

StalwartBraveTrue

1/3/17 4:21pm

lol at PSU and Baylor being like Mixon or SMU.... your opinion is 100% bogus

Dissenter

1/3/17 11:32pm

Is that sand in your hair? Read the whole paragraph next time.

StalwartBraveTrue

1/5/17 7:13pm

#badtakes

Brass Monkey

1/3/17 1:47am

PSU is not alone in hiding problems to win at all costs, all the top programs do

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