No, it's ignorant to think Taysom got worse

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May 27, 2017
12:23:21pm

Jericho All-American

Detmer just didn't use him appropriately.

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Is it OK to say that I'm concerned about the offense?

lbmango

5/27/17 10:56am

I feel just the same, mango! Hopefully we see strong improvement!

Fervent Cougar

5/27/17 11:00am

Detmer concerns me. He has proven nothing to this point

Jericho

5/27/17 11:02am

Were the rumors about Sark legit? I wouldn't have minded at all to give him a...

COACHdrn

5/27/17 11:18am

Hard to have an incoherent drunk coaching at BYU

ALUF 1990

5/27/17 4:22pm

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kunarcougar

5/27/17 5:42pm

Yes they were

CougarBuddy

5/27/17 6:01pm

Sure he has. Kinda need the personnel. Detmer can't force his

Lip Gallagher

5/27/17 11:28am

Just saying, if the beef is actually with Detmer, you have to

Lip Gallagher

5/27/17 12:20pm

Agree with everything you said...my concern is defensive emphasis.

cdr88

5/27/17 7:53pm

I thought about hoarding, but I don't think it will be that bad.

Lip Gallagher

5/27/17 9:28pm

Thanks. I'm a little less anxious.

cdr88

5/29/17 5:23pm

For your consideration-- Kavika Fonua switched to offense

BrutustheBrash

5/27/17 10:16pm

Thank you. I need the reassurance. I fear becoming Ewetish.

cdr88

5/29/17 5:26pm

Legit worry. Bronco had unbalanced recruiting. Kalani is recruiting about 6

Coogar2

5/30/17 12:07am

I think doubters like this deserve a lessor portion of the glory to revel in

Pretorian

5/27/17 11:54am

Yes someone needs to start holding these "doubters" accountable!

PortlandCoug

5/27/17 12:00pm

I'm actually not concerned about the WYO game at all

Jericho

5/27/17 12:21pm

Agreed. Inflexibility and lack of creativity...

tmurphey44

5/27/17 8:43pm

O-Line Size and PBLocking has been and will continue to be a strength

jomo

5/27/17 8:59pm

I disagree

tmurphey44

5/28/17 7:16am

Fine, disagree, but you're wrong

jomo

5/28/17 10:17am

Look at the data...

tmurphey44

5/28/17 10:43pm

There aren't that many Wisconsins and LSUs... and we aren't trying to be

jomo

5/28/17 11:11pm

That's because it hasn't been a huge focus

BrutustheBrash

5/28/17 10:17am

Exactly right...

jomo

5/28/17 10:34am

I agree that the passing game wasn't very good

BrutustheBrash

5/28/17 10:48am

The receivers *did* have issues, but you're right, Taysom was the main problem

jomo

5/28/17 11:01am

Curious, so for what style of play is our talent level conducive?

Pretorian

5/30/17 5:01am

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Abe Froman

5/30/17 11:27am

But... but... we didn't score 35+ points a game!

BrutustheBrash

5/30/17 11:38am

This is a stupid comment

hammergm

5/27/17 11:58am

I think it's a fair concern

PortlandCoug

5/27/17 12:03pm

No, it's ignorant to think Taysom got worse

Jericho

5/27/17 12:23pm

I love Taysom Hill

hammergm

5/27/17 1:39pm

Hill was much better under Anae

coolblue

5/28/17 7:43am

Did you want Hill hurt in the first, second, or third game?

bigjohn

5/27/17 4:32pm

Oh man.

cougarmanguy

5/27/17 5:10pm

Your comment is stupider

marklar39

5/28/17 11:26am

Detmer didn't have a QB to work with.

Y4LYFE

5/27/17 12:28pm

If only he had a senior qb who was previously in heisman conversation . . .

viper

5/27/17 2:32pm

And fighting for an NFL roster spot.

RSLCoug

5/27/17 2:44pm

Heaps is also fighting for a roster spot.

Y4LYFE

5/27/17 3:36pm

2013 is not 2016

Y4LYFE

5/27/17 3:36pm

So you are saying that he got a lot worse? was it the injury, or the offense?

viper

5/27/17 4:36pm

He had the same two quarterbacks that Anae did, only more mature.

coolblue

5/28/17 7:45am

He proved he could replicate the results of an OC with 10 more years OC experience than he had

byuTX

5/27/17 12:35pm

Excellent point. TDs football IQ is best we'll ever see. More time is needed

Y4LYFE

5/27/17 3:37pm

Increasingly, Cougarboard is indistinguishable from Fast and Testimony Meeting

BeardedSpock

5/28/17 11:23am

LOL thanks

Coogar2

5/30/17 12:09am

2015 Points per Game: 33.7 2016 Points per Game: 29.5

BeardedSpock

5/28/17 11:22am

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byuTX

5/28/17 11:59am

You're crazy... Detmer is the real deal (or "ril dil" if you're from Utah)

jomo

5/27/17 8:04pm

I am sorry, but you must not have seen what was happening on the field. Detmer

PhilPete

5/30/17 9:59am

Yeah, and the offense only really worked when he tweaked it to work for Taysom

Jericho

5/30/17 11:04am

How did Virginias Offense do this last year

Y2k

5/30/17 11:31am

But Ty couldn't sacrifice the development of the whole offense just to fit

Hoss Bonaventure

5/30/17 12:25pm

His offense wasn't much different from Anae in '13 or Doman in '11 ...

icecougar

5/30/17 8:29pm

It feels like we haven't had a really good offense in 8 years.

SuperTank

5/27/17 11:02am

I don't disagree, however...

lbmango

5/27/17 11:04am

The D lost us plenty of games such as in 2014

Jericho

5/27/17 12:28pm

It might feel that way, but 2013 had almost 1000 more yards than the 2009

crack

5/30/17 9:03am

I think the offensive line will be good. Everything starts up front, Right?

BYUALWAYSNUM1

5/27/17 11:02am

I am cautiously optimistic - Wait and see at this point

Dr T-bone

5/27/17 11:18am

Sure, until you listed losing Hill as a huge loss.

Lip Gallagher

5/27/17 11:19am

I hope you're right. I'll rely on your faith for now.

lbmango

5/27/17 11:31am

Really though, what would naturally take a step back?

Lip Gallagher

5/27/17 2:55pm

A good and experienced OL can cover a multitude of sins. I'm rather optimistic

BamaCoug

5/27/17 11:54am

THIS

Judge Judy

5/27/17 10:22pm

Agreed - This could be the best Oline we've had in years, and that can make a

jaba166

5/28/17 3:23am

Actually...

Y4LYFE

5/27/17 12:27pm

I feel the same way, there are some concerns.

Byu_1988

5/27/17 12:47pm

JWill was a huge security blanket (and frankly Taysom's scrambling abilities)..

Machiavelli

5/27/17 1:00pm

This is primarily what I meant when I said we'll miss Taysom

lbmango

5/27/17 1:33pm

This is understated, I think.

Byu_1988

5/27/17 1:47pm

Mangum showed that ability very well as a freshman.

Lip Gallagher

5/27/17 2:42pm

This is a good point..Mangum is actually pretty good at scrambling too

Machiavelli

5/27/17 6:00pm

The latter of which is overrated.

Lip Gallagher

5/27/17 1:53pm

It's still not true how many times people say this. We had several sessions of

Ash

5/27/17 5:07pm

If Bushman or MLP produce at TE we should be above average to good

AFcoug7

5/27/17 1:14pm

I have a feeling tanner is going to be a punching bag this year.

conetah

5/27/17 1:28pm

I think the offense will be great in game 1

TheDeek

5/27/17 1:44pm

I hope the offense against PSU is very vanilla

lbmango

5/27/17 1:59pm

Vanilla, but firing on all cylinders

viper

5/27/17 2:36pm

You could write a book about this exact thing since 2009.

Gerald-DeGroot

5/28/17 3:28am

Many people don't realize that only part of Detmer's offense was implemented

RebelScum

5/27/17 1:46pm

Can someone explain to me why Detmer's offense would only be partially implement

Machiavelli

5/27/17 1:50pm

There are a couple of dynamics to this. The first is implementing a new offense.

RebelScum

5/27/17 2:04pm

My primary concern with this theory is that there was no progression

StalwartBraveTrue

5/31/17 1:53am

It was all about the QB and % success....

jomo

5/31/17 2:25am

Great point. Here's hoping Tanner can be up to speed enough to make it work

StalwartBraveTrue

5/31/17 8:19am

ONe word: personnel

PhilPete

5/30/17 10:02am

Bull! With that, I hope Detmer matures into his roll.

coolblue

5/28/17 7:48am

There will come a time when Detmer, or someone else associated with the offense,

RebelScum

5/28/17 9:36am

I am too. Tanner needs to show he is an under center, pocket QB and can pick teams apart with reads.

Turnpike Lane

5/27/17 1:57pm

I'm optimistic (like others) that Tanner will be fine. But I agree that he

dilbert

5/27/17 6:39pm

Your concern is natural -- but I wouldn't worry too much

BrutustheBrash

5/27/17 2:18pm

I'm not real confident to tell you the truth - a lot of question marks

BYUfan92

5/27/17 2:19pm

Legit concerns

zerome4sooners

5/27/17 2:40pm

No. Southernfried will tell you how stupid you are.

idacoug

5/27/17 3:09pm

Way to contribute some actual sports talk, like usual.

Lip Gallagher

5/27/17 4:08pm

I hope our offense isn't turning into Utah's. Sitake has brought an awesome

doups3

5/27/17 4:04pm

We had yards and points...but I'll trade it for wins

hammergm

5/27/17 4:37pm

Yes. We should be.

Gerald-DeGroot

5/27/17 5:19pm

Why do you have a hard time seeing it happen?

Seasider

5/27/17 7:05pm

I don't think there's anything wrong with being concerned while holding out hope that it will work out.

sakhr

5/27/17 7:27pm

Agree with all of that

gurt

5/27/17 8:00pm

jomo

5/27/17 8:05pm

There should be concern, but in today's football you don't get 4-5 seasons

mosterlow

5/28/17 11:27am

RE: Is it OK to say that I'm concerned about the offense?

BYU H2O POLO

5/29/17 9:51pm

Of course. This is a discussion board.

(Private)

5/30/17 8:51am

You're underestimating the value of getting 1st team reps in practice

Thug Mormons

5/30/17 9:33am

Detmer's O put BYU in a position to win every game but players dropped the ball

thecthdox

5/30/17 12:00pm

Two key factors that should help the offense, 1) BYU has 4

CougarsFanSince80s

5/30/17 12:23pm

I vote this ^^^ as the voice of reason we should listen to.

Squire

5/30/17 2:40pm

Jamaal is a loss but Taysom...addition by subtraction?

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