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Sep 25, 2017
7:59:45am

TheLoneCougar Contributor

When the team isn't even competitive against teams that the HC and AD want

to play routinely, it gives the fans of glimpse of who we really are.

We want to be P5, but have a G5 budget. We can't play or compete with the "big boys" with this philosophy. That is what Indy has shown us. We aren't relevant, can't stay in the Top 25, and all this "exposure and Indy money" isn't improving the product on the field.

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Oh my heavens, there is so much over the top drama about BYU I can't help but

Phcole

9/25/17 6:50am

I think people feel there's little room for error. USC/ND might have horrible years but they aren't losing the arms race

SouthernBlueBlood

9/25/17 6:57am

Then that's a discussion for the end of a bad season. Not after three losses.

Phcole

9/25/17 7:09am

This is insightful. BYU's Indy viability feels like it depends on making noise

Blue streak

9/25/17 8:01am

They can recruit top talent that we cannot. Easier for them to snap out of a

BlueForLife

9/25/17 8:04am

I think part of the issue is that with an Indy schedule you really only get one

9/25/17 7:16am

The problem with that being that this year two of our games were losses

Phcole

9/25/17 7:25am

Right- but the whole point of Independence is to schedule and beat the best team

9/25/17 8:08am

How is that any different from when BYU was in the WAC/MWC?

NorCal_Coug

9/25/17 8:12am

Every ounce of national relevance we currently have as a program was earned in

9/25/17 8:17am

Nobody respected those championships on a national stage.

NorCal_Coug

9/25/17 8:24am

Obviously our status as an outsider hampered us, but we are still an outsider.

9/25/17 9:21am

That is why I feel the way I do.

9/25/17 8:21am

Preach brother

Thunderdome

9/25/17 7:19am

I agree, except the offensive output is absolutely unacceptable.

idacoug

9/25/17 7:35am

We are, agreed. But that's not a program issue. That's a bad year issue.

Phcole

9/25/17 8:23am

Wait, wait, wait ... what?

Bob Vance

9/25/17 1:32pm

When the team isn't even competitive against teams that the HC and AD want

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 7:59am

Yes, this year we are bad. But that doesn't mean anything in the big picture.

Phcole

9/25/17 8:20am

And my point is, we aren't an improving program over the years.

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 8:27am

What is there to improve? Only the blue bloods sustain 10+ win seasons for

Phcole

9/25/17 10:40am

There isn't in Indy...that is the whole point I am getting at.

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 1:37pm

Fair enough. Until we get into a P5 conference, we're stuck.

Phcole

9/25/17 3:18pm

Until...It isn't happening my friend, not playing the way we are currently.

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 3:29pm

Play has almost nothing to do with. Look at the recent additions to the B1G

Phcole

9/26/17 10:03am

We don't have the market that MD and NJ have. Play will have everything to do

TheLoneCougar

9/26/17 11:07am

The problem for me is that we haven't been ranked this low since Crowton, and

BlueForLife

9/25/17 8:03am

I'm just curious what you think the coaches are going to say?

Phcole

9/25/17 8:24am

Usually coaches that know they are struggling say we have a lot to work on. Yiu4

BlueForLife

9/25/17 9:15pm

In all my years I've never heard a single coach say anything but positives

Phcole

9/26/17 10:04am

trying to make lemons out of lemonade - if BYU were really good, their last 6 games would

cwilke1

9/25/17 8:17am

Not at all. I'm acknowledging this team is bad. I'm just pointing out how stupid

Phcole

9/25/17 8:22am

sorry. I typed my post incorrectly.

cwilke1

9/25/17 8:46am

High expectations are inversely proportional to reactions

HangookCoug

9/25/17 8:20am

CB Trolls: "Where's the fun in that?"

Kuga

9/25/17 8:23am

We have the worst offense in football and that's recognizing reality. It's not

sgriff

9/25/17 8:25am

This season has gone as expected

Toubabou

9/25/17 8:31am

For many it's not the loss, rather HOW BYU lost that is alarming.

NorCal_Coug

9/25/17 8:36am

Being the worst offense in football hasn't gone as expected.

sgriff

9/25/17 8:39am

I think we got a little optimistic after Spring ball.

Toubabou

9/25/17 9:35am

Yes our expectations were too high so things haven't gone as expected.

sgriff

9/25/17 9:44am

Who will get drafted?

Cougtruth

9/25/17 10:12am

No, they didn't lose. They were embarrassed, except the Utah game

Bob Vance

9/25/17 1:34pm

Nominated, and thread unfollowed. I'm out.

Kuga

9/25/17 8:44am

Well that was quick.

rerunc

9/25/17 11:49am

OP, when was the last time you feel the team was actually good? During Indy I

DoseOfReality

9/25/17 9:50am

We haven't had a really good team since 2011. And haven't had a great team since

Phcole

9/25/17 11:59am

The 2011 team wasn't even that good.

eddog

9/25/17 5:06pm

People going through the five stages of grief because how much this means to

DJROSS

9/25/17 9:55am

Very true, and very entertaining.

rerunc

9/25/17 11:50am

Keep em comin!

9/25/17 1:32pm

Losing 3 in a row is understandable, but the manner in which we've done it...

Hill4Heisman

9/25/17 2:16pm

It's absolutely been ugly. No doubt about that.

Phcole

9/25/17 3:19pm

Oh, don't forget Florida State.

jambocoug

9/25/17 4:00pm

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