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Sep 25, 2017
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Phcole
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Not at all. I'm acknowledging this team is bad. I'm just pointing out how stupid
It is to point to a bad year (or in this case a start to a year) and say the program is spiraling.
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Oh my heavens, there is so much over the top drama about BYU I can't help but
Phcole
9/25/17 6:50am
I think people feel there's little room for error. USC/ND might have horrible years but they aren't losing the arms race
SouthernBlueBlood
9/25/17 6:57am
Then that's a discussion for the end of a bad season. Not after three losses.
Phcole
9/25/17 7:09am
This is insightful. BYU's Indy viability feels like it depends on making noise
Blue streak
9/25/17 8:01am
They can recruit top talent that we cannot. Easier for them to snap out of a
BlueForLife
9/25/17 8:04am
I think part of the issue is that with an Indy schedule you really only get one
Junior Deputy
9/25/17 7:16am
The problem with that being that this year two of our games were losses
Phcole
9/25/17 7:25am
Right- but the whole point of Independence is to schedule and beat the best team
Junior Deputy
9/25/17 8:08am
How is that any different from when BYU was in the WAC/MWC?
NorCal_Coug
9/25/17 8:12am
Every ounce of national relevance we currently have as a program was earned in
Junior Deputy
9/25/17 8:17am
Nobody respected those championships on a national stage.
NorCal_Coug
9/25/17 8:24am
Obviously our status as an outsider hampered us, but we are still an outsider.
Junior Deputy
9/25/17 9:21am
That is why I feel the way I do.
westsidecoug
9/25/17 8:21am
Preach brother
Thunderdome
9/25/17 7:19am
I agree, except the offensive output is absolutely unacceptable.
idacoug
9/25/17 7:35am
We are, agreed. But that's not a program issue. That's a bad year issue.
Phcole
9/25/17 8:23am
Wait, wait, wait ... what?
Bob Vance
9/25/17 1:32pm
When the team isn't even competitive against teams that the HC and AD want
TheLoneCougar
9/25/17 7:59am
Yes, this year we are bad. But that doesn't mean anything in the big picture.
Phcole
9/25/17 8:20am
And my point is, we aren't an improving program over the years.
TheLoneCougar
9/25/17 8:27am
What is there to improve? Only the blue bloods sustain 10+ win seasons for
Phcole
9/25/17 10:40am
There isn't in Indy...that is the whole point I am getting at.
TheLoneCougar
9/25/17 1:37pm
Fair enough. Until we get into a P5 conference, we're stuck.
Phcole
9/25/17 3:18pm
Until...It isn't happening my friend, not playing the way we are currently.
TheLoneCougar
9/25/17 3:29pm
Play has almost nothing to do with. Look at the recent additions to the B1G
Phcole
9/26/17 10:03am
We don't have the market that MD and NJ have. Play will have everything to do
TheLoneCougar
9/26/17 11:07am
The problem for me is that we haven't been ranked this low since Crowton, and
BlueForLife
9/25/17 8:03am
I'm just curious what you think the coaches are going to say?
Phcole
9/25/17 8:24am
Usually coaches that know they are struggling say we have a lot to work on. Yiu4
BlueForLife
9/25/17 9:15pm
In all my years I've never heard a single coach say anything but positives
Phcole
9/26/17 10:04am
trying to make lemons out of lemonade - if BYU were really good, their last 6 games would
cwilke1
9/25/17 8:17am
Not at all. I'm acknowledging this team is bad. I'm just pointing out how stupid
Phcole
9/25/17 8:22am
sorry. I typed my post incorrectly.
cwilke1
9/25/17 8:46am
High expectations are inversely proportional to reactions
HangookCoug
9/25/17 8:20am
CB Trolls: "Where's the fun in that?"
Kuga
9/25/17 8:23am
We have the worst offense in football and that's recognizing reality. It's not
sgriff
9/25/17 8:25am
This season has gone as expected
Toubabou
9/25/17 8:31am
For many it's not the loss, rather HOW BYU lost that is alarming.
NorCal_Coug
9/25/17 8:36am
Being the worst offense in football hasn't gone as expected.
sgriff
9/25/17 8:39am
I think we got a little optimistic after Spring ball.
Toubabou
9/25/17 9:35am
Yes our expectations were too high so things haven't gone as expected.
sgriff
9/25/17 9:44am
Who will get drafted?
Cougtruth
9/25/17 10:12am
No, they didn't lose. They were embarrassed, except the Utah game
Bob Vance
9/25/17 1:34pm
Nominated, and thread unfollowed. I'm out.
Kuga
9/25/17 8:44am
Well that was quick.
rerunc
9/25/17 11:49am
OP, when was the last time you feel the team was actually good? During Indy I
DoseOfReality
9/25/17 9:50am
We haven't had a really good team since 2011. And haven't had a great team since
Phcole
9/25/17 11:59am
The 2011 team wasn't even that good.
eddog
9/25/17 5:06pm
People going through the five stages of grief because how much this means to
DJROSS
9/25/17 9:55am
Very true, and very entertaining.
rerunc
9/25/17 11:50am
Keep em comin!
Gerald-DeGroot
9/25/17 1:32pm
Losing 3 in a row is understandable, but the manner in which we've done it...
Hill4Heisman
9/25/17 2:16pm
It's absolutely been ugly. No doubt about that.
Phcole
9/25/17 3:19pm
Oh, don't forget Florida State.
jambocoug
9/25/17 4:00pm
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