We haven't had a really good team since 2011. And haven't had a great team since

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Sep 25, 2017
11:59:50am

Phcole Walk-on

2009. There's a reason bronco was in the hot seat.

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Phcole

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Oh my heavens, there is so much over the top drama about BYU I can't help but

Phcole

9/25/17 6:50am

I think people feel there's little room for error. USC/ND might have horrible years but they aren't losing the arms race

SouthernBlueBlood

9/25/17 6:57am

Then that's a discussion for the end of a bad season. Not after three losses.

Phcole

9/25/17 7:09am

This is insightful. BYU's Indy viability feels like it depends on making noise

Blue streak

9/25/17 8:01am

They can recruit top talent that we cannot. Easier for them to snap out of a

BlueForLife

9/25/17 8:04am

I think part of the issue is that with an Indy schedule you really only get one

Junior Deputy

9/25/17 7:16am

The problem with that being that this year two of our games were losses

Phcole

9/25/17 7:25am

Right- but the whole point of Independence is to schedule and beat the best team

Junior Deputy

9/25/17 8:08am

How is that any different from when BYU was in the WAC/MWC?

NorCal_Coug

9/25/17 8:12am

Every ounce of national relevance we currently have as a program was earned in

Junior Deputy

9/25/17 8:17am

Nobody respected those championships on a national stage.

NorCal_Coug

9/25/17 8:24am

Obviously our status as an outsider hampered us, but we are still an outsider.

Junior Deputy

9/25/17 9:21am

That is why I feel the way I do.

westsidecoug

9/25/17 8:21am

Preach brother

Thunderdome

9/25/17 7:19am

I agree, except the offensive output is absolutely unacceptable.

idacoug

9/25/17 7:35am

We are, agreed. But that's not a program issue. That's a bad year issue.

Phcole

9/25/17 8:23am

Wait, wait, wait ... what?

Bob Vance

9/25/17 1:32pm

When the team isn't even competitive against teams that the HC and AD want

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 7:59am

Yes, this year we are bad. But that doesn't mean anything in the big picture.

Phcole

9/25/17 8:20am

And my point is, we aren't an improving program over the years.

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 8:27am

What is there to improve? Only the blue bloods sustain 10+ win seasons for

Phcole

9/25/17 10:40am

There isn't in Indy...that is the whole point I am getting at.

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 1:37pm

Fair enough. Until we get into a P5 conference, we're stuck.

Phcole

9/25/17 3:18pm

Until...It isn't happening my friend, not playing the way we are currently.

TheLoneCougar

9/25/17 3:29pm

Play has almost nothing to do with. Look at the recent additions to the B1G

Phcole

9/26/17 10:03am

We don't have the market that MD and NJ have. Play will have everything to do

TheLoneCougar

9/26/17 11:07am

The problem for me is that we haven't been ranked this low since Crowton, and

BlueForLife

9/25/17 8:03am

I'm just curious what you think the coaches are going to say?

Phcole

9/25/17 8:24am

Usually coaches that know they are struggling say we have a lot to work on. Yiu4

BlueForLife

9/25/17 9:15pm

In all my years I've never heard a single coach say anything but positives

Phcole

9/26/17 10:04am

trying to make lemons out of lemonade - if BYU were really good, their last 6 games would

cwilke1

9/25/17 8:17am

Not at all. I'm acknowledging this team is bad. I'm just pointing out how stupid

Phcole

9/25/17 8:22am

sorry. I typed my post incorrectly.

cwilke1

9/25/17 8:46am

High expectations are inversely proportional to reactions

HangookCoug

9/25/17 8:20am

CB Trolls: "Where's the fun in that?"

Kuga

9/25/17 8:23am

We have the worst offense in football and that's recognizing reality. It's not

sgriff

9/25/17 8:25am

This season has gone as expected

Toubabou

9/25/17 8:31am

For many it's not the loss, rather HOW BYU lost that is alarming.

NorCal_Coug

9/25/17 8:36am

Being the worst offense in football hasn't gone as expected.

sgriff

9/25/17 8:39am

I think we got a little optimistic after Spring ball.

Toubabou

9/25/17 9:35am

Yes our expectations were too high so things haven't gone as expected.

sgriff

9/25/17 9:44am

Who will get drafted?

Cougtruth

9/25/17 10:12am

No, they didn't lose. They were embarrassed, except the Utah game

Bob Vance

9/25/17 1:34pm

Nominated, and thread unfollowed. I'm out.

Kuga

9/25/17 8:44am

Well that was quick.

rerunc

9/25/17 11:49am

OP, when was the last time you feel the team was actually good? During Indy I

DoseOfReality

9/25/17 9:50am

We haven't had a really good team since 2011. And haven't had a great team since

Phcole

9/25/17 11:59am

The 2011 team wasn't even that good.

eddog

9/25/17 5:06pm

People going through the five stages of grief because how much this means to

DJROSS

9/25/17 9:55am

Very true, and very entertaining.

rerunc

9/25/17 11:50am

Keep em comin!

Gerald-DeGroot

9/25/17 1:32pm

Losing 3 in a row is understandable, but the manner in which we've done it...

Hill4Heisman

9/25/17 2:16pm

It's absolutely been ugly. No doubt about that.

Phcole

9/25/17 3:19pm

Oh, don't forget Florida State.

jambocoug

9/25/17 4:00pm

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