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Aug 20, 2018
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RedlandsCoug
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I agree there was interest. I don’t know if that ended with a formal invite.
Absolutely if there were an invite someone pooped the bed by not jumping on it.
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October 11th 2011. “..BYU is no longer a candidate to join the Big 12 because BYU wants to remain Independent”.
Zach Morris
True Liberal
8/20/18 6:42pm
That’s the cover story, not necessarily the truth
Cougarclaw
8/20/18 6:44pm
What was the truth then?
Zach Morris
8/20/18 6:46pm
I wasn't there, but when dealing with a bunch of face-saving ninnies
Cougarclaw
8/20/18 7:14pm
Wow. That's a pretty short sided opinion
TNT
8/20/18 7:17pm
So you’re saying you agree then that byu chose to remain independent?
Zach Morris
8/20/18 7:25pm
RE: I wasn't there, but when dealing with a bunch of face-saving ninnies
AFCougK9
8/20/18 7:29pm
Give me a G5 conference with Kansas and Iowa dredges....
Coug
8/20/18 8:15pm
Why would they join any conference without provisions
antiyewt
8/20/18 8:49pm
And that's exactly the type of attitude that kept BYU out
TNT
8/20/18 8:57pm
I don’t think so
antiyewt
8/20/18 9:07pm
Very well could be
TNT
8/20/18 9:09pm
So many bad takes today...
dYrtbYkerYder
8/20/18 10:21pm
Um, really? What happened to the BCS schools in the Big East?
Benfica1
8/20/18 9:25pm
No just piecing things together. There are clues throughout
TNT
8/20/18 9:27pm
You wouldn't rather be in a conference with KU, KSt, TT, Baylor, and Iowa St?
dYrtbYkerYder
8/20/18 10:26pm
Maybe. Only TT was good at football at the time.
Benfica1
8/21/18 1:38pm
In 2011? K-State and Baylor both finished Top 15. In 2012 KSU got up to #2.
dYrtbYkerYder
8/21/18 2:00pm
I looked at 2010 - 7 wins for TT and KST and Baylor.
Benfica1
8/21/18 2:14pm
Missing on the Big XII opportunity is the single worst thing
Hoax
8/20/18 6:45pm
It's bad unfortunately
TNT
8/20/18 6:47pm
Complete mismanagement of a golden opportunity.
Zach Morris
8/20/18 6:48pm
No HD? *bursts into tears*
TNT
8/20/18 6:50pm
Actually this analogy makes a lot of sense
TNT
8/20/18 6:52pm
100% correct, TH legacy... I'll never understand how he gets a pass from BYU
blackshirts
8/20/18 8:35pm
I agree Indy does kinda suck.
antiyewt
8/20/18 8:53pm
Why is this holmoe’s fault. From all tidbits of information, sounds like it was
idacoug
8/20/18 10:12pm
If it's above the Athletic Director pay grade to direct BYU sports than why have
blackshirts
8/20/18 10:30pm
Name me a school where the Ad makes the conference alignment decisions
CougarThug
8/20/18 11:42pm
I'd say almost every big time AD is at least deeply involved if not guiding the
blackshirts
8/21/18 8:57pm
Going Indy as a Knee jerk reaction to Utah going p12 was the second
franklyvulgar
8/20/18 11:24pm
Sounds like trying to control the narrative
RedlandsCoug
8/20/18 6:47pm
What are the possible alternatives?
Zach Morris
8/20/18 6:49pm
The only possible alternative many want to believe is there was never an “invitation”....
Bonoman
8/20/18 6:58pm
I agree there was interest. I don’t know if that ended with a formal invite.
RedlandsCoug
8/20/18 9:40pm
RE: I agree there was interest. I don’t know if that ended with a formal invite.
Zach Morris
8/20/18 9:45pm
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RedlandsCoug
8/20/18 9:49pm
RE: October 11th 2011. “..BYU is no longer a candidate to join the Big 12
Borg
8/20/18 6:49pm
Someone must be blamed! Total lack of evidence is proof of the conspiracy!
boyblue
8/20/18 6:50pm
Tom dedicated almost the entire byu Oregon State halftime to a special
Zach Morris
8/20/18 6:54pm
You mean when he repeatedly said that BYU was never invited to the Big12? This is your evidence, right?
boyblue
8/20/18 7:00pm
TNT absolutely believes an official invite was never extended
TNT
8/20/18 7:01pm
I don't think BYU walked away from negotiations, I think the big12 went after bigger fish
boyblue
8/20/18 7:35pm
Bigger fish? TCU and West Virginia are bigger fish?
TNT
8/20/18 7:36pm
No, I think they wanted to go after fsu and Clemson
boyblue
8/20/18 7:40pm
Or TCU/WVU make sense cause it was apparent that byu wasn’t budging.
Zach Morris
8/20/18 7:55pm
The absolutely offered the biggest bribes. Yes.
Lance71
8/20/18 9:27pm
Everyone knows that an actual invite comes after negotiations and informal agreements
Zach Morris
8/20/18 7:04pm
The recent articles outlining the UU’s negotiations with the PAC 10
Everyman
8/20/18 7:11pm
Instead of just assuming incompetence, lets hearken back to those days
boyblue
8/20/18 7:25pm
Yes but the whole point is you don't take TCU and WV over BYU
TNT
8/20/18 7:58pm
TCU because of Texas, and WVU was a P6 program and the big 12 wanted to go east
boyblue
8/20/18 8:25pm
I know people get mad when I say it but I still blame Holding Your Breath
jkccoug
8/20/18 6:54pm
Special = arrogant....it’s worked out well. 😉
Bonoman
8/20/18 7:00pm
^ This!
antiyewt
8/20/18 8:58pm
Yup, this is it!
ABCoug
8/20/18 9:24pm
Samuelson is a Ute- always has been, always will be
1984coug
8/20/18 11:24pm
Oh ye of little faith
Heavily MeDeekated
8/20/18 7:00pm
Yeesh. TNT paid the donor fee. What more do you want?
TNT
8/20/18 7:01pm
BYU was told they must be willing to play on Sunday, BYU is sponsored by....
Thunderdome
8/20/18 7:17pm
Link?
SandYFan
8/20/18 7:18pm
That doesn't make sense either
TNT
8/20/18 7:19pm
They were in discussions for months and they finally all realized
Zach Morris
8/20/18 7:28pm
You really think the Big12 was all set to change championships in 7 sports off
NewMexiCoug
8/20/18 8:56pm
Let’s say what you’re suggesting is 100% accurate. So why then discuss this for several months if this was a deal
Zach Morris
8/20/18 9:02pm
Good points. Football-only or partial membership must have been in play.
NewMexiCoug
8/20/18 9:06pm
I believe when the big 12 lost all those members and they were borderline destroyed
Zach Morris
8/20/18 9:11pm
Disagree, I think it was BYU going in arrogant and thinking they could make
blackshirts
8/20/18 8:50pm
Byu screwed up big time. They were in.
idcougarfan
8/20/18 8:01pm
LOL at the Trib quoting Chip Brown
Gustav
8/20/18 8:19pm
Chip Brown was right a lot more than he was wrong; he was the one who broke the
BlooCoog
8/20/18 8:24pm
Tom Holmoe doesn’t hold a big 12 specific interview during halftime
Zach Morris
8/20/18 8:32pm
Could be yes... the other possibility is that he was getting tons of inquiries
BlooCoog
8/20/18 8:46pm
Tom very clearly thanked the Big 12 for keeping their discussions private.
Zach Morris
8/20/18 8:58pm
Chuck Neinas, who was interim Big 12 commissioner at the time,
Everyman
8/20/18 9:07pm
I don’t believe any of the crap the media was dishing back then
Croweater
8/20/18 9:19pm
Agreed. We saw similar crap during the more recent round 2.
CougarThug
8/20/18 11:53pm
Borrowing a couple lines from Bronco’s quote in your narrative....
icecougar
8/21/18 12:10am
I am convinced BYU screwed up. I spent way to much time reading anything I
johnnybyu
8/21/18 12:14am
Exactly. Those of us who have followed this closely know that BYU blew it.
dYrtbYkerYder
8/21/18 12:22am
Pretty good analysis
TNT
8/21/18 8:06am
^This is it^ not much more needs to be said.....
ABCoug
8/21/18 8:30pm
Talk about crying over spilt milk! Let it go people... this milk is beyond sour
Pretorian
8/21/18 6:44am
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