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Dec 14, 2019
12:53
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Baron
AKA "Dear Leader"
For the numbers BYU has for incoming freshman neither of those achievements are
not that impressive for someone entering BYU.
Not saying they don't belong. I am saying a lot more people are getting that probably shouldn't.
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Maybe an Unpopular Opinion: Religion courses at BYU shouldn't be difficult.
Traveshamockery
12/14/19 12:07pm
Why would that be unpopular? I do t even think they should be graded.
kotacoug
12/14/19 12:09pm
Disagree there- grading needs to be included for credit and to demonstrate
SouthernBlueBlood
12/14/19 12:10pm
Are you saying get rid of the academic credit then? Essentially would make
Game Changer
12/14/19 12:21pm
Not for the BOM- graded but easy
SouthernBlueBlood
12/14/19 12:24pm
Yes. Institute equivalent. All professors basically become CES.
kotacoug
12/14/19 1:02pm
I would not oppose that. But logistically, how would BYU manage religion
Game Changer
12/14/19 2:16pm
Some teachers are great and understand the bigger academic picture, others have
wabluecoug
12/14/19 12:09pm
Religion professors at BYU generally have very large egos
cougarnerd
12/14/19 12:13pm
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maxpowers
12/14/19 12:24pm
Fixed: Professors generally have very large egos
panguitch
12/14/19 1:31pm
I disagree. They should be difficult or they shouldn’t be offered at all
spinner
12/14/19 12:13pm
Serious academic institutions shouldnt grade religion classes. It so bizarre
Backcountry
12/14/19 12:20pm
That’s fine too, honestly
spinner
12/14/19 12:23pm
It should just be pass / fail. You have to take them for credit, doesn't impact GPA positively or negatively.
memento
12/14/19 12:25pm
That's how they count if you take institute classes and transfer the credits.
bluecougar1985
12/14/19 8:53pm
It depends if it is academic they should if it is spiritual fluff class then no.
Baron
12/14/19 12:28pm
Why not?
kccougar
12/14/19 12:33pm
Thats their right. But it doesnt seem like they would be able to offer credit
Backcountry
12/14/19 12:51pm
Never attended BYU?
kccougar
12/14/19 1:34pm
No. And I dont see what wrong with running a normal institute.
Backcountry
12/14/19 2:24pm
Colleges offer plenty of courses that are just for enrichment. So what?
CougarMandias
12/14/19 12:33pm
95% courses are for enrichment
rcbyufan
12/14/19 12:48pm
What is the current requirement for graduation?
spinner
12/14/19 12:52pm
Don't need to grade them, but they should be mandatory.
CougarMandias
12/14/19 2:00pm
You in turn
spinner
12/14/19 2:14pm
I agree..if offered they should mean something. I think we should make them more
SWP
12/14/19 4:46pm
Both of my kids had the same comments.. yet CB never seems to believe me..
TheLost
12/14/19 12:13pm
IMO a lot of kids get into BYU who shouldn't because they really prepped for the ACT on the behest
Baron
12/14/19 12:29pm
My daughter graduated HS with an associates degree and CPhT license..
TheLost
12/14/19 12:49pm
For the numbers BYU has for incoming freshman neither of those achievements are
Baron
12/14/19 12:53pm
Let me know when your kids get accepted. We'll compare what they think about it
TheLost
12/14/19 12:54pm
If they get in I hope they find it challenging and competitive. I went to BYU and outside my major
Baron
12/14/19 12:56pm
Well...I think classes should be rigorous, whether it stresses students out or
SWP
12/14/19 4:54pm
Tons of CBers agree
TEXAS
12/14/19 12:32pm
ratemyprofessor.com - unfortunately not all BYU religion courses are equal
GlueBoggles
12/14/19 9:13pm
Depends on course and purpose IMO
Gustav
12/14/19 12:15pm
Yes, I agree. As I mentioned in my post, if you are a religion
Traveshamockery
12/14/19 12:17pm
The chemistry department has different intro courses for majors and non majors.
kcca
12/14/19 12:45pm
There are a ton of religion teachers and the classes vary so much in difficulty
TCuz
12/14/19 12:16pm
Teachers probably just don't like you.
bluecougar1985
12/14/19 9:10pm
I agree wholeheartedly. Unless you’re major is in religious studies or something
ldssdl
12/14/19 12:16pm
Problem is that the class difficulty is 100% teacher specific
LaserCoug
12/14/19 12:17pm
It's possible someone else would like the other class better, no? Choice is good
rcbyufan
12/14/19 12:47pm
True. But there should be some leveling of work loads between professors.
LaserCoug
12/14/19 2:04pm
Many of the Book of Mormon classes aren’t taught by religion professors
Greg Kite's 'stache
12/14/19 12:18pm
Good points. She should have done more research into these course. I think
Traveshamockery
12/14/19 12:24pm
Multiple choice tests are always relatively easy
Baron
12/14/19 12:19pm
Ratemyprofessor.com is her friend. Religion professors at BYU differ greatly
BIG XII Coug
12/14/19 12:20pm
100% agree.
CougarMandias
12/14/19 12:27pm
Totally agree. Experience and reflection over cram and dump info.
spugeddy24
12/14/19 12:32pm
The best religion professor wasn't even a professor. He was a retired Dr that was in my ward growing up.
Ragnar Danneskjold
12/14/19 12:32pm
That’s a very popular opinion
2FarGone
12/14/19 12:35pm
Mine were pretty easy
Cougforgood
12/14/19 12:44pm
I had pretty easy religion classes at BYU. All about finding the right professor
2Blue4U
12/14/19 12:47pm
There was a Princeton Review type of assessment in the 90s where...
Sumguy
12/14/19 12:58pm
Finally, something to blame Gen X for!
Cougforgood
12/14/19 1:26pm
It is a college level course at an accredited university. Some level of
mudpupper
12/14/19 1:10pm
I don't mind if its difficult, but I do if its a 100 level course.
(Private)
12/14/19 1:29pm
Seminary creates the wrong expectations for BYU religion classes.
panguitch
12/14/19 1:49pm
Same with my daughter. The most spiritual member of our family and she is really
timpjynx
12/14/19 1:49pm
Sometimes it helps to enroll in the classes with large class sizes. Then the
BYUBandfan
12/14/19 1:56pm
It’s the CES syndrome
coldcoug
12/14/19 2:04pm
Rate my professors is your friend in this regard.
TerpCoug
12/14/19 2:49pm
They aren't all hard. But finding which professors are easy is an art.
ryebrye
12/14/19 2:56pm
A REALLY unpopular opinion is that learning needs to be tough to be effective.
runnincoug
12/14/19 4:34pm
This is only true when it's something we don't want to learn.
Mises
12/14/19 5:29pm
Enjoyable yes, but not necessarily easy ... even for things we enjoy
runnincoug
12/14/19 5:49pm
Most that teach that course are faculty in other programs. So the quality of
NorthernLight
12/14/19 5:43pm
Is there a degree one can get in religion?
JohnnyComeLately
12/14/19 6:32pm
Amen brother.
BYU313
12/14/19 8:11pm
Having graduated from BYU just over a year ago
Mattattack159
12/14/19 8:44pm
I'm graduating from BYU-I next week, I took all institute classes and had them
bluecougar1985
12/14/19 8:50pm
Nobody in this thread is talking about that school.
TCuz
12/14/19 8:53pm
Okay, fyi you can transfer institute credits to any of the 3 main church schools
bluecougar1985
12/14/19 8:58pm
*1 main church school
TCuz
12/14/19 9:01pm
So only BYU allows transferred credits? I guess they made an exception for me.
bluecougar1985
12/14/19 9:03pm
Good grief, getting all uppity!
runnincoug
12/14/19 9:26pm
Wouldn't that cause an accreditation problem?
Mitty
12/14/19 11:18pm
Tough to know, since "hard" is subjective, but college is a shock to many
MarylandFan
12/15/19 5:56am
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