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Apr 7, 2020
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shimmy
Haribo fan.
I’m arguing with the people saying we should go all oprah on it.
To be fair that is a minority and almost completely people who see a political angle in this. I’d also argue against the people saying vetting is useless due to the political angle.
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My aunt had a minor illness and was prescribed Chloramphenicol which killed her. Other children were also killed.
shimmy
Haribo fan.
4/7/20 11:05am
Safe use is surely important. Some risks are set aside when time is of the essence, which many have felt was the case.
Grit for Brains
4/7/20 11:11am
As long as you aren't lying to people, it's fine. People just need to know
rcbyufan
4/7/20 11:13am
I agree.
Grit for Brains
4/7/20 11:15am
I'm definitely okay with rolling the dice at some point on an individual level. I believe rolling the dice without
shimmy
4/7/20 11:14am
Umm HCQ has been around since the 1940s
cougfanz
4/7/20 11:14am
Well that fact definitely proves me wrong because harsh side effects from improper medicine have only been around for a
shimmy
4/7/20 11:15am
RE: Well that fact definitely proves me wrong because harsh side effects from
Fatalplacebo
4/7/20 11:19am
That's actually not the most relevant point...
CoachSpeak
4/7/20 11:25am
Well stated but important to note that the disease state can amplify known
HansMoleman
4/7/20 11:31am
Are the negatives established for Covid-19?
shimmy
4/7/20 11:35am
By the time you do a randomized, placebo controlled study looking at
cougfanz
4/7/20 12:04pm
Wrong. There are already thousands of papers on covid pubmed indexed
HansMoleman
4/7/20 12:26pm
More than likely yes...
CoachSpeak
4/7/20 12:11pm
Which is why we are so aware of the risks. In setting of known risks
HansMoleman
4/7/20 11:29am
What would you do?
moabmax
4/7/20 4:51pm
safety is not the end all and be all of goals. it's a consideration
Cougarclaw
4/7/20 11:16am
Yes, we'll never have a completely safe medicine. Chemo kills people. I'm not saying it has to be 100% safe. I'm saying
shimmy
4/7/20 11:20am
It has been used for 70 years. Rheumatologist have been prescribing it to
travelcoug
4/7/20 11:22am
Wake me up when we've been using it for 100 years. I can't trust only 70 years
Northwest Cougar
4/7/20 11:25am
Then it should be rushed to the front of the line and approved for treatment post haste.
shimmy
4/7/20 11:26am
All doctors and nurses are already taking it.
charles
4/7/20 12:22pm
I don't think that's correct...
CoachSpeak
4/7/20 12:25pm
Where? I'm surprised. Have they asked to take it?
charles
4/7/20 12:42pm
Both work for IHC, my daughter at IMC in Murray and my wife at Orem Community
CoachSpeak
4/7/20 12:51pm
Are they seeing covid19 infected patients? Are they treating patients with hcq?
charles
4/7/20 1:12pm
My daughter is, she's an intensive care nurse...
CoachSpeak
4/7/20 1:19pm
well that is made up
shimmy
4/7/20 12:25pm
Do you have any anecdotal evidence they aren't?
charles
4/7/20 12:43pm
RE: Do you have any anecdotal evidence they aren't?
SierraCoug
4/7/20 12:45pm
My wife isn’t taking it at UV Hospital
BYU'01
4/7/20 2:54pm
It is safe and will not kill anyone
CougarCanuck76
4/7/20 11:24am
You are right. But who are you arguing with?
Coach's Dad
4/7/20 11:28am
I’m arguing with the people saying we should go all oprah on it.
shimmy
4/7/20 11:34am
Fair enough. Vetting needs to be done. But now may not be the best time
Coach's Dad
4/7/20 11:46am
That's horrible. Did the doctor improperly prescribe/dose it? Was there an allergic reaction?
SierraCoug
4/7/20 11:34am
No idea to be honest. It appears to be much more toxic than HCQ and was pulled way back some time ago.
shimmy
4/7/20 11:43am
There are not many people who thinks we need to be giving everyone doses of it right now.
JohnnyComeLately
4/7/20 11:46am
I agree with that as I stated earlier in the thread. And my comparison was not meant as an apples to apples
shimmy
4/7/20 12:30pm
I didn’t read every post in the thread before commenting so my apologies.
JohnnyComeLately
4/7/20 12:44pm
Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding. I definitely think we should try using drugs to dave people's lives. Didn't mean to
shimmy
4/7/20 1:00pm
Agreed.
JohnnyComeLately
4/7/20 1:06pm
Adding Trump into your statement tells everyone that this is solely partisan to
YbeatsU
4/7/20 12:51pm
Hope and pray the drug Mr. Trump is promoting is the miracle cure we're looking for.
shimmy
4/7/20 1:01pm
I don't think it will be a miracle cure. There are favorable and unfavorable anecdotal stories regarding the drug. There
SierraCoug
4/7/20 1:19pm
I think it is much more than a "guess". Not saying it is the silver bullet but
IceCreamButt
4/7/20 12:58pm
Sensitive to your family situation but you may be missing the argument
TFL
4/7/20 12:58pm
somewhat agreed
shimmy
4/7/20 1:02pm
Good take. I'd venture to say that you actually agree with the President
TFL
4/7/20 1:53pm
"Safety is paramount" = never do anything. Corona is not a minor illness.
CougarMandias
4/7/20 1:23pm
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