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BYUinTX
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Minor error. He jumped from the stands and tried to steal the flag. Then beat up
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Utes learning a lesson in humility? Embarrassed for their behavior?
BYU-Laie
9/20/21 2:28am
I would hope this is the case but I honestly don’t have any “neutral”
Refugee
9/20/21 5:27am
Anywhere with a lot of members. I live in Hawaii
BYU-Laie
9/20/21 5:51am
I’m in Rexburg. Lots of members and fans. Not as many Ute fans here...
Refugee
9/20/21 6:43am
I agree. Seems like the majority of ute fans have no self awareness when it comes to their behavior in the rivalry.
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 10:59am
Maybe she me if the Utah fans are finally noticing this
1CougFan
9/20/21 6:02am
Some of the Utah fans but not all
1CougFan
9/20/21 6:03am
I am just glad we haven’t ever had any embarrassing fan behavior like someone
CDV
9/20/21 6:44am
Whelp… guess there’s always that one
sundance
9/20/21 6:58am
I vaguely remember this. What happened?
Shore10
9/20/21 7:04am
Utes scored. Their cheerleaders ran around what was then Cougar Stadium waving their big red flag. BYU student in the
CDV
9/20/21 7:16am
Minor error. He jumped from the stands and tried to steal the flag. Then beat up
BYUinTX
9/20/21 7:23am
The BYU fan was a twit - but didn't throw any punches.
Eddie
9/20/21 8:59am
His motivation is somewhat irrelevant once he tackles someone
Tricky
9/20/21 9:25am
I thought that's what I was saying. But I probably wasn't clear.
Eddie
9/20/21 9:35am
Didn't that cheerleader turn out to be a BYU reject who had an axe to grind?
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 11:04am
I think he had an axe to grind because he was tackled while performing his
kos
9/20/21 12:06pm
Actually the question need not be asked. The fact is he was. And the guy who jumped was mentally impaired.
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 12:12pm
I’ve never heard that he was mentally impaired. Any sources?
BYU-Laie
9/20/21 12:17pm
Yes me. I was right behind the goal post in that section. I could see his face. I've worked with enough kids over
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 12:35pm
He was a student at BYU at the time of the incident.
Eddie
9/20/21 12:43pm
Worked at the mental hospital in SE Provo for five years. Call it a misdiagnosis but he looked DS to me
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 12:54pm
Just watched the video of the incident and they said he was not a BYU student
BYU-Laie
9/20/21 1:37pm
Let's all agree to be friends and agree that the guy was wrong to jump from the stands and get himself pummeled.
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 1:40pm
In my experience, people with Down syndrome are not aggressive or violent at all
BYU-Laie
9/20/21 1:52pm
Firstly I'm not an expert. But I have spent lots of time around people with DS and though not violent I saw lots of
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 2:25pm
RE: Just watched the video of the incident and they said he was not a BYU
uteman1011
9/20/21 1:45pm
Nothing about the fan being mentally impaired
BYU-Laie
9/20/21 1:50pm
Also look at how the cheerleader was just wailing on the guy. Only a bully would keep punching when he could see the kid
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 1:47pm
I hesitate to enter this silly fray but..
inutero
9/20/21 3:11pm
Thanks for that. Additional clarity is welcome.
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 3:21pm
^this is an underrated response. "Any sources?" "Yes, me."
kos
9/20/21 4:37pm
I don't care if he had "I hate Brigham Young and all his wives" tattooed on his
Tricky
9/20/21 1:04pm
I don't recall apologizing for him. However I was appalled by the other guy's response. Was that warranted?
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 1:20pm
No, I guess you're not apologizing for him...you're just not so subtly implying
kos
9/20/21 2:19pm
Go look at the video of it posted above. Then come back and tell me that the response was warranted!!!
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 2:53pm
Yeesh, this really doesn't look good for you.
kos
9/20/21 3:39pm
How so?
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 3:57pm
I genuinely am curious if there's more than one or two people on this board
kos
9/20/21 4:41pm
Actually, IIRC, he transferred to BYU the next year.
Oceanographer
9/20/21 1:46pm
Really?
BYU-Laie
9/20/21 4:24pm
That's what I remember.
Oceanographer
9/20/21 4:41pm
I know our fan was out of line, but those Utah cheerleaders were terrible.
westsidecoug
9/20/21 11:14am
It's not "unsportsmanlike" to run around with a flag after your team scores.
Eddie
9/20/21 11:45am
And the cheerleader could probably have pressed charges against the BYU fan.
Tricky
9/20/21 1:07pm
I said two times in my post that the BYU fan was in the wrong. I am not excusing
westsidecoug
9/20/21 2:42pm
Sure, the cheerleader may have been a complete
Tricky
9/21/21 10:20am
I've said now multiple times that the BYU fan behavior was dumb and not
westsidecoug
9/21/21 2:38pm
I never said it was unsportsmanlike to wave your flag around after you score.
westsidecoug
9/20/21 2:33pm
Yep. They taunted the crowd. Cheerleaders don't usually do that. Classy ones at least. Which brings us back to utes.
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 3:20pm
So your main example is a single event from 1999?
Littlerich
9/20/21 7:34am
Exactly.
runnincoug
9/20/21 8:16am
I will say, we took my cousin's Ute fan husband to a game with us in 2009. He
coug719
9/20/21 10:22am
That's not bad fan behavior. That's protecting the turf! Put a statue up of that
OldFogey
9/20/21 8:07am
Wasn't that what Robert E Lee was doing? Yet his statues are being removed...
CougarThug
9/20/21 9:22am
RE: Wasn't that what Robert E Lee was doing? Yet his statues are being
akbarishiwatsu
9/20/21 10:56am
If you do that again, I'll hit your fist with my face SO HARD!!!
Tricky
9/20/21 9:26am
OldFogey
libertycoug
9/20/21 10:43am
Especially if that person was mentally handicapped in the first place. And the cheer leader still beat him silly
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 11:02am
Simple: After 12 years we've forgotten how to administer "Winner's Smack"
anonymous37
9/20/21 2:01pm
Doubt it, Ute fans have no shame.
IceCreamButt
9/20/21 6:47am
When Utah was a BCS buster against Pitt and Bama lots of BYY fans cheered for
bruincoug
9/20/21 6:48am
I cheered for them when they were in the NCAA BB finals in 98 but later glad they lost when I read all of the posts
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 11:09am
Many blatant, loud Ute fans in our SLC neighborhood are not that active in
Tarbo
9/20/21 7:26am
I'm not surprised.
BleedCougarBlue2
9/20/21 9:33am
1/2 of your take was hot. Mostly BYU fans are pretty classy about not rubbing
Incentivize
9/20/21 7:29am
I didn’t root against Utah until they joined Pac 12. HUGE Majerus fan in 90’s
moknowssports
9/20/21 7:39am
my extended family all cheered for Andre Miller, Keith Van Horn, Alex Smith et al back in the day. Once P12 came,
HarlemCoug
9/20/21 7:54am
I couldn't bring myself to root for them once Meyer was coach
davidsonlaw
9/20/21 8:14am
You are wrong there, I know thousands of BYU fans who used to cheer for Utah
byublue42
9/20/21 8:25am
I agree with this. I used to root for the Utes. I still don't actively root
RUNBYU1
9/20/21 9:04am
Urban didn't help, but it wasn't just him.
Eddie
9/20/21 9:11am
I'm an Alum of both schools, but TRUE BLUE THROUGH AND THROUGH. Root for both
jtm0001
9/20/21 11:15am
As time went on I began to realize that Max Hall was right.
BigHouse Coug
9/20/21 11:24am
I've been cussed at, spat on & beer "accidentally" spilled on me @ Rice Eccles
jtm0001
9/20/21 11:37am
Chris Hill poured a lot of poison into the bad-blood well of the rivalry too.
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 11:15am
I agree with that 100%, it seemed it was his goal to add as much poison towards
byublue42
9/20/21 12:30pm
I suspect if we beat them 9 times in a row, we’d get pretty insufferable. We
russkiejedi
9/20/21 7:50am
We did in fact beat them 9 times in a row
sundance
9/20/21 8:01am
Yup. We talked down just like they do now. They called it "holier than thou"
fulano
9/20/21 8:12am
In case you haven't noticed, yewts don't just "talk" trash. Jello shots, etc.
BleedCougarBlue2
9/20/21 9:36am
Was in high school when BYU was destroying uu regularly. I had 1 BYU sweatshirt
Benfica1
9/20/21 8:15am
No way to prove or disprove this. Just speculation and anecdotes.
DazeofBlue
9/20/21 10:24am
LOL, the OP was the one who was arguing basically that BYU fans were much better
russkiejedi
9/20/21 5:51pm
Yewt band playing their fight song during senior presentations long after the
Shawarma
9/20/21 8:04am
The breaking point for me was when they tried to tear down the north goal post at Cougar Stadium when they won by a
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 11:27am
Fortunately Chad Lewis ran the length of the field and put a stop to it (his team mates followed behind him).
dilbert
9/20/21 2:54pm
"I explained that in my experience we’ve never been that way to them."
OPINIONS
9/20/21 8:07am
Yes. We were cocky for sure. Looking forward to doing it again! 🙂
fulano
9/20/21 8:13am
I dunno. My BIL was spewing all kinds of vitriol against BYU last week on...
Hawk in the 303
9/20/21 8:20am
You must be young. Yewts have been acting this way for decades.
SoValleyCOUG
9/20/21 8:27am
I rooted passionately for Utah whenever they weren't playing BYU
MyTwoCents
9/20/21 8:34am
Same.
Benfica1
9/20/21 8:47am
I think this goes for a ton of BYU fans.
RUNBYU1
9/20/21 9:05am
Does for me. Went to the U as a freshman. Utterly refuse to cheer for them now.
BleedCougarBlue2
9/20/21 9:39am
Did you know of any Utah fans who cheered for BYU?
BigHouse Coug
9/20/21 10:52am
not really.
Benfica1
9/20/21 11:06am
I find that there is a lot of resentment for the popularity of BYU
BigHouse Coug
9/20/21 11:13am
RE: Did you know of any Utah fans who cheered for BYU?
uteman1011
9/20/21 11:35am
The bitterness from from BYU fans was not because we lost
BigHouse Coug
9/20/21 11:51am
THIS ^^^^ The leader of your football team is so disrespectful that he won't
BYUlv
9/20/21 1:07pm
So you are bigfoot-- not sure you really existed until you popped up. Glad you can be a diehard ute and civil with BYU
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 11:52am
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BYU-Laie
9/20/21 11:57am
No - I doubt that is what is happening. They are embarrassed about losing but
truecougster
9/20/21 9:25am
This is probably true. But to be clear, for me, credit to BYU - you guys have
kos
9/20/21 10:18am
Nice of you to say - much appreciated. As I’ve said before, my concern is more
truecougster
9/20/21 11:41am
Impossible, they don't even sell humility at their stadium.
nybyblue
9/20/21 9:36am
I will never cheer for Utah. The more they lose, the better our recruiting gets.
Hill4Heisman
9/20/21 9:46am
I would be perfectly happy if the Utes never won another game ever.
BigHouse Coug
9/20/21 10:41am
Yep, the only game I wanted Utah to lose was to BYU. Cheered every other time.
oldrugger
9/20/21 10:47am
I never cheered for the utes unless they could help BYU in conference standings. But I never gave ute fans
SwimmingWithSharks
9/20/21 10:55am
Fan behavior runs the gamut on both sides. Just wait until they win again.
StalwartBraveTrue
9/20/21 11:06am
I think Ute anti-BYU vitriol is roughly proportionate to that fan's resentment
Forzaitalia
9/20/21 11:46am
Never did most BYU fans cheer for Utah.
ochobeeguy
9/20/21 11:46am
Fact: The current toxicity can be traced to Urban Meyer and, subsequently,
TrueBlue67
9/20/21 12:11pm
The BYU hate started long before UM, but he perfected it. Whitt has carried the
Benfica1
9/20/21 12:55pm
Maybe they’re not embarrassed but the win was equivalent to taking their pitch
BYU-Laie
9/20/21 12:21pm
There is the vile portion of the Ute fan base that will never change. I grew up
BlooCoog
9/20/21 12:21pm
RE: There is the vile portion of the Ute fan base that will never change. I grew
uteman1011
9/20/21 1:48pm
Lol you're really delusional
BigHouse Coug
9/20/21 2:04pm
Please provide evidence of Cougar fans being “vile.” Before you do that, please
BlooCoog
9/20/21 2:05pm
RE: Please provide evidence of Cougar fans being “vile.” Before you
uteman1011
9/20/21 4:00pm
RE: Please provide evidence of Cougar fans being “vile.” Before you
uteman1011
9/20/21 4:01pm
you must be friends with the smartest and most self-aware ute fans.
MaxxPower
9/20/21 12:53pm
I grew up rooting for yewtah when not playing BYU. My great uncle played
Mitty
9/20/21 1:03pm
Just look at who Utah puts in positions of leadership. That tells you enough.
HONOMO
9/20/21 1:14pm
RE: Just look at who Utah puts in positions of leadership. That tells you
uteman1011
9/20/21 2:08pm
Completely irrelevant to my post. Congrats. Love that straw man argument.
HONOMO
9/20/21 2:48pm
LoL that has about nothing to do with his post. Nice try though Ute.
IceCreamButt
9/20/21 2:58pm
They go back to their caves at times like this.
inutero
9/20/21 2:03pm
No need for either party to make unkind generalizations. That’s what Utes do
canofpicante
9/20/21 4:28pm
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