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Jan 20, 2018
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Josef K
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If I were in your shoes I’d be doing the same thing.
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Would you feel guilty taking all six weeks of paid parental leave at your company
CrimWalCoug
All-American in practice
1/11/18 10:05pm
Nope
ballen
1/11/18 10:08pm
No notice no cool. But if current job was horrid and you want to burn a bridge
CarolinaCoug
1/11/18 10:08pm
The current job is great. The new job is in a different state and in a different industry.
CrimWalCoug
1/11/18 11:06pm
Absolutely not. I would cash out all my vacation days too.
YIsForBrigham
1/11/18 10:09pm
Of course, I would tell my boss that’s the plan beforehand.
YIsForBrigham
1/11/18 10:11pm
What if there was a likelihood you get axed on the spot?
CrimWalCoug
1/11/18 10:17pm
Then I would not tell him and I’d take the chance it wouldn’t hurt me later
YIsForBrigham
1/11/18 10:43pm
I'd feel guilty taking 6 weeks paid leave even without another job lined up.
dreamlvr
1/11/18 10:09pm
Why?
scootsy
1/11/18 10:10pm
What? If it's a company offered benefit you should use it guilt free.
mottman
1/11/18 10:26pm
Especially paternal leave. If the company offers paid leave, would you really rather still work than be with family?
scootsy
1/11/18 10:32pm
Millennial?
dreamlvr
1/12/18 4:34pm
Yep. Maybe you and I are different, but I had no control picking the time I passed through my mother's uterus.
scootsy
1/14/18 3:04pm
Ethically, it isn't something I would do. First, you have a axe to grind with your current employer? Because the
ChinaFan
1/11/18 10:10pm
What if you were doing it so equity would vest?
CrimWalCoug
1/11/18 10:15pm
an unjust demotion would bug me enough to stick it to the man.
SweetBabyG
1/11/18 10:25pm
well, now you bring facts not previously in evidence to the equation.... so let me give you this thought,
ChinaFan
1/11/18 10:42pm
Definitely agree it would be ideal to get my new employer to push back my start date.
CrimWalCoug
1/11/18 10:50pm
Nah, 2 weeks notice is all you owe them. Take the leave if since it's lierally
NSFW
1/11/18 11:51pm
All 6 weeks of parental leave are paid? So half way through you would start
Pasadena
1/11/18 10:13pm
Agreed.
mulletino
1/11/18 10:14pm
There is no current policy against it at company A.
CrimWalCoug
1/11/18 10:20pm
Then go for it. Why are you asking? My opinion stands and if I were your
Pasadena
1/12/18 12:04am
Why? It’s company policy. It’s part of his negotiated benefits package. A boss who looks down on you for exercising your
YIsForBrigham
1/12/18 12:20am
Well, I should qualify my answer.
Pasadena
1/12/18 2:28pm
But obviously the company sees this differently as they are the ones who created this policy.
CrimWalCoug
1/12/18 2:39pm
I disagree that the "Company" thinks it's ok. Your company manual
Pasadena
1/12/18 4:19pm
Where are you finding these women who are taking only three weeks of maternity leave?
CrimWalCoug
1/12/18 8:08pm
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rmsenior
1/12/18 12:15am
If paternity is covered under FMLA,
NewYorkCougar
1/12/18 7:25am
Really depends on a lot of factors
cougarfann888
1/11/18 10:13pm
I probably wouldn’t. But I wouldn’t fault someone who did.
v1k0u6
1/11/18 10:15pm
Companies aren’t loyal.
v1k0u6
1/11/18 10:15pm
I’ve seen five rounds of layoffs in my 10 year career at the company.
CrimWalCoug
1/11/18 10:23pm
And you'd lose your insurance, which your wife probably needs.
SweetBabyG
1/11/18 10:26pm
myth, he can't lose his insurance, but he would have to make his Cobra payment.
ChinaFan
1/11/18 10:44pm
If the company paid for it previously, he lost it. Cobra is the state replacement he pays himself.
Turnpike Lane
1/11/18 10:52pm
If you brought it to HR and got fired you'd get paid for 60 days, right?
Great38
1/11/18 10:32pm
Don’t know. I can’t ask the question as HR is notorious for acting like a jilted lover.
CrimWalCoug
1/11/18 10:41pm
Sounds unethical to be getting checks from two companies
Josef K
1/11/18 10:47pm
What is unethical about it? Neither company is aware of the situation.
CrimWalCoug
1/11/18 10:57pm
I’m assuming that company A, like most companies, would fire the employee if
Josef K
1/12/18 12:45am
No way. That’s awesome for you.
WDaddy
1/11/18 10:52pm
I would never come close to doing that but as with many things
CSoul
1/11/18 10:57pm
What if I were a woman taking all of my maternity leave and had no intention of going back to work?
CrimWalCoug
1/11/18 11:23pm
It's part of what they used to entice you to work for them.
Cashmeousside
1/11/18 11:19pm
Agree, there's plenty of stuff your company pays for that you don't use/need.
NSFW
1/11/18 11:58pm
Who cares, your quitting, just give them whatever notice is standard for the ind
BNcoug
1/11/18 11:53pm
What if I give them notice halfway through my parental leave?
CrimWalCoug
1/12/18 4:30am
If your equity vests at this point this seeems like a fine option
holipuluki
1/12/18 7:29am
I wouldn't. My last job I gave a two week notice because I felt it was the right
Chemish
1/12/18 5:26am
Is it a competitor? Seems like there would be some type of conflict of interest
Fdnman
1/12/18 5:57am
Not a competitor or a supplier. Different industry and different state.
CrimWalCoug
1/12/18 6:01am
Not my style to stick it to my employer, even if there are problems.
SouthernCoug
1/12/18 6:56am
We adopted several months ago, but I never took my paternity leave.
CrimWalCoug
1/12/18 8:30am
Personally, I would not start a new job with a new company while I was still employed
Clark Addison
1/12/18 7:02am
Have you told your new employer that you're still on the old job's payroll?
Linescratcher
1/12/18 7:04am
This is a good option that I hadn’t thought of.
CrimWalCoug
1/12/18 8:49am
So here's what I think....
Adrielle
1/12/18 8:06am
I'd feel guilty about it but would still do it. Once I'd get that 2nd paycheck in the same day I'd use it to buy a
HarlemCoug
1/12/18 9:58am
For me it’s not about the pay from the six weeks. It’s about bridging the gap to have my equity vest.
CrimWalCoug
1/12/18 1:49pm
for me .... the vesting adds enough that I wouldn't feel much guilt. You've essentially earned the right to the
HarlemCoug
1/12/18 4:59pm
My boss’ boss was laid off yesterday, so one less bridge to burn as I leave the company abruptly.
CrimWalCoug
1/19/18 6:47pm
If I were in your shoes I’d be doing the same thing.
Josef K
1/20/18 8:49am
1,000 more people are supposed to get laid off this week. I’m praying I’m one of them.
CrimWalCoug
1/20/18 10:12am
can't you go ask someone privately to ensure you're on the list?
HarlemCoug
1/20/18 10:32am
How would being laid off affect your vesting? Wasn't that the objective, vest?
rmsenior
1/20/18 12:24pm
The company will give you your bonus and accelerate your vesting for that year.
CrimWalCoug
1/20/18 8:55pm
I hope you get fired!!!!
HarlemCoug
1/20/18 9:23pm
UPDATE: My company is laying off over 1,000 people at corporate today.
CrimWalCoug
1/25/18 8:34am
Wow. Maybe you’ll get a huge promotion out of this.
Josef K
1/25/18 8:44am
Nope. We are getting really lean and consolidating big time.
CrimWalCoug
1/25/18 8:48am
curious if these layoffs would make it easier for you to get promoted - so staying may be wise?
HarlemCoug
1/25/18 9:26am
There is a big focus on reducing the layer I would be promoted into.
CrimWalCoug
1/25/18 10:18am
so at the moment your job is "safe"? Too bad you didn't get laid off...
mottman
1/25/18 10:26am
Another update on this situation.
CrimWalCoug
2/23/18 2:53pm
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