If paternity is covered under FMLA,

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Jan 12, 2018
7:25:51am

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If paternity is covered under FMLA,

Then I’m not sure this is ethical, or perhaps even legal. Company A will file an FMLA claim for the paternity leave. Some portion of that leave will then be paid by their policy covering such claims. If an employee starts working at Company B during any of the period being paid by the policy, then that’s where things get sticky.

But I cold be wrong.

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Would you feel guilty taking all six weeks of paid parental leave at your company

CrimWalCoug All-American in practice

1/11/18 10:05pm

Nope

ballen

1/11/18 10:08pm

No notice no cool. But if current job was horrid and you want to burn a bridge

1/11/18 10:08pm

The current job is great. The new job is in a different state and in a different industry.

CrimWalCoug

1/11/18 11:06pm

Absolutely not. I would cash out all my vacation days too.

1/11/18 10:09pm

Of course, I would tell my boss that’s the plan beforehand.

1/11/18 10:11pm

What if there was a likelihood you get axed on the spot?

CrimWalCoug

1/11/18 10:17pm

Then I would not tell him and I’d take the chance it wouldn’t hurt me later

1/11/18 10:43pm

I'd feel guilty taking 6 weeks paid leave even without another job lined up.

dreamlvr

1/11/18 10:09pm

Why?

scootsy

1/11/18 10:10pm

What? If it's a company offered benefit you should use it guilt free.

mottman

1/11/18 10:26pm

Especially paternal leave. If the company offers paid leave, would you really rather still work than be with family?

scootsy

1/11/18 10:32pm

Millennial?

dreamlvr

1/12/18 4:34pm

Yep. Maybe you and I are different, but I had no control picking the time I passed through my mother's uterus.

scootsy

1/14/18 3:04pm

Ethically, it isn't something I would do. First, you have a axe to grind with your current employer? Because the

ChinaFan

1/11/18 10:10pm

What if you were doing it so equity would vest?

CrimWalCoug

1/11/18 10:15pm

an unjust demotion would bug me enough to stick it to the man.

SweetBabyG

1/11/18 10:25pm

well, now you bring facts not previously in evidence to the equation.... so let me give you this thought,

ChinaFan

1/11/18 10:42pm

Definitely agree it would be ideal to get my new employer to push back my start date.

CrimWalCoug

1/11/18 10:50pm

Nah, 2 weeks notice is all you owe them. Take the leave if since it's lierally

NSFW

1/11/18 11:51pm

All 6 weeks of parental leave are paid? So half way through you would start

Pasadena

1/11/18 10:13pm

Agreed.

mulletino

1/11/18 10:14pm

There is no current policy against it at company A.

CrimWalCoug

1/11/18 10:20pm

Then go for it. Why are you asking? My opinion stands and if I were your

Pasadena

1/12/18 12:04am

Why? It’s company policy. It’s part of his negotiated benefits package. A boss who looks down on you for exercising your

1/12/18 12:20am

Well, I should qualify my answer.

Pasadena

1/12/18 2:28pm

But obviously the company sees this differently as they are the ones who created this policy.

CrimWalCoug

1/12/18 2:39pm

I disagree that the "Company" thinks it's ok. Your company manual

Pasadena

1/12/18 4:19pm

Where are you finding these women who are taking only three weeks of maternity leave?

CrimWalCoug

1/12/18 8:08pm

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rmsenior

1/12/18 12:15am

If paternity is covered under FMLA,

1/12/18 7:25am

Really depends on a lot of factors

cougarfann888

1/11/18 10:13pm

I probably wouldn’t. But I wouldn’t fault someone who did.

v1k0u6

1/11/18 10:15pm

Companies aren’t loyal.

v1k0u6

1/11/18 10:15pm

I’ve seen five rounds of layoffs in my 10 year career at the company.

CrimWalCoug

1/11/18 10:23pm

And you'd lose your insurance, which your wife probably needs.

SweetBabyG

1/11/18 10:26pm

myth, he can't lose his insurance, but he would have to make his Cobra payment.

ChinaFan

1/11/18 10:44pm

If the company paid for it previously, he lost it. Cobra is the state replacement he pays himself.

1/11/18 10:52pm

If you brought it to HR and got fired you'd get paid for 60 days, right?

Great38

1/11/18 10:32pm

Don’t know. I can’t ask the question as HR is notorious for acting like a jilted lover.

CrimWalCoug

1/11/18 10:41pm

Sounds unethical to be getting checks from two companies

Josef K

1/11/18 10:47pm

What is unethical about it? Neither company is aware of the situation.

CrimWalCoug

1/11/18 10:57pm

I’m assuming that company A, like most companies, would fire the employee if

Josef K

1/12/18 12:45am

No way. That’s awesome for you.

WDaddy

1/11/18 10:52pm

I would never come close to doing that but as with many things

CSoul

1/11/18 10:57pm

What if I were a woman taking all of my maternity leave and had no intention of going back to work?

CrimWalCoug

1/11/18 11:23pm

It's part of what they used to entice you to work for them.

Cashmeousside

1/11/18 11:19pm

Agree, there's plenty of stuff your company pays for that you don't use/need.

NSFW

1/11/18 11:58pm

Who cares, your quitting, just give them whatever notice is standard for the ind

BNcoug

1/11/18 11:53pm

What if I give them notice halfway through my parental leave?

CrimWalCoug

1/12/18 4:30am

If your equity vests at this point this seeems like a fine option

holipuluki

1/12/18 7:29am

I wouldn't. My last job I gave a two week notice because I felt it was the right

Chemish

1/12/18 5:26am

Is it a competitor? Seems like there would be some type of conflict of interest

Fdnman

1/12/18 5:57am

Not a competitor or a supplier. Different industry and different state.

CrimWalCoug

1/12/18 6:01am

Not my style to stick it to my employer, even if there are problems.

1/12/18 6:56am

We adopted several months ago, but I never took my paternity leave.

CrimWalCoug

1/12/18 8:30am

Personally, I would not start a new job with a new company while I was still employed

Clark Addison

1/12/18 7:02am

Have you told your new employer that you're still on the old job's payroll?

1/12/18 7:04am

This is a good option that I hadn’t thought of.

CrimWalCoug

1/12/18 8:49am

So here's what I think....

Adrielle

1/12/18 8:06am

I'd feel guilty about it but would still do it. Once I'd get that 2nd paycheck in the same day I'd use it to buy a

HarlemCoug

1/12/18 9:58am

For me it’s not about the pay from the six weeks. It’s about bridging the gap to have my equity vest.

CrimWalCoug

1/12/18 1:49pm

for me .... the vesting adds enough that I wouldn't feel much guilt. You've essentially earned the right to the

HarlemCoug

1/12/18 4:59pm

My boss’ boss was laid off yesterday, so one less bridge to burn as I leave the company abruptly.

CrimWalCoug

1/19/18 6:47pm

If I were in your shoes I’d be doing the same thing.

Josef K

1/20/18 8:49am

1,000 more people are supposed to get laid off this week. I’m praying I’m one of them.

CrimWalCoug

1/20/18 10:12am

can't you go ask someone privately to ensure you're on the list?

HarlemCoug

1/20/18 10:32am

How would being laid off affect your vesting? Wasn't that the objective, vest?

rmsenior

1/20/18 12:24pm

The company will give you your bonus and accelerate your vesting for that year.

CrimWalCoug

1/20/18 8:55pm

I hope you get fired!!!!

HarlemCoug

1/20/18 9:23pm

UPDATE: My company is laying off over 1,000 people at corporate today.

CrimWalCoug

1/25/18 8:34am

Wow. Maybe you’ll get a huge promotion out of this.

Josef K

1/25/18 8:44am

Nope. We are getting really lean and consolidating big time.

CrimWalCoug

1/25/18 8:48am

curious if these layoffs would make it easier for you to get promoted - so staying may be wise?

HarlemCoug

1/25/18 9:26am

There is a big focus on reducing the layer I would be promoted into.

CrimWalCoug

1/25/18 10:18am

so at the moment your job is "safe"? Too bad you didn't get laid off...

mottman

1/25/18 10:26am

Another update on this situation.

CrimWalCoug

2/23/18 2:53pm

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