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Aug 15, 2018
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Odysseus Playmaker

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Merrill Hoge is going OFF on the coaches' decision to move Beau to RB

Jurisprudence

8/15/18 10:26am

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Cougazul

8/15/18 10:27am

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Jurisprudence

8/15/18 10:27am

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Abe Froman

8/15/18 10:33am

It was the right move. He's not as good of a passer as other QB's.

SoValleyCOUG

8/15/18 11:30am

Not sure about that. But certainly his longevity is a fair point

Bob Vance

8/15/18 11:48am

And that could be what Merrill is upset about. Concussion are what caused Merril

SoValleyCOUG

8/15/18 2:01pm

Merrill should know better. This won't help his son at all. He's gonna look like LaVar Ball.

8/15/18 10:27am

He's just an upset parent, no big deal. Plus our coaching staff

JOPE

8/15/18 10:29am

Wasn't there a bunch of stuff with the Pau'u's last year or something too?

Jericho

8/15/18 10:35am

Yes, in the spring. Butch's mom went off as well.

8/15/18 10:35am

Yeah no reason to trust Grimes or Arod after their abysmal performance last year

GOR

8/15/18 11:01am

BYU needs dudes like Merrill to like them.... I don’t like this

Pretorian

8/15/18 11:38am

I agree. I'm not necessarily a Merrill Hoge fan, but you don't want someone

IdahoCoug

8/15/18 11:56am

Everyone thought it was odd that Beau was moved to RB.

Richbyu

8/15/18 12:14pm

His Dad was an RB in the NFL, and he is too good an athlete to keep off the

BlueBeliever

8/15/18 1:22pm

Yeah - this is in the realm of "best 12 players on the field."

Eddie

8/15/18 1:56pm

Hopefully it's not as a 12th man on the field or we'd get a penalty.

IdahoCoug

8/15/18 2:48pm

You have to be sneaky to make it work...

Eddie

8/15/18 2:52pm

The only reservation I've had is moving a QB with concussion history to RB position. I was surprised.

Grit for Brains

8/15/18 10:27am

the hits are different. Generally less likely as a RB to get a concussion.

molodyets

8/15/18 10:29am

His weren't blind hits though.

Dillinger

8/15/18 10:30am

The last concussion wasn't even a hard tackle either.

ReggaeCoug

8/15/18 10:38am

That's because he was put back in too early from the prior concussion

jonnnylingo

8/15/18 10:51am

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Cougazul

8/15/18 10:30am

Don't tell that to Merrill Hoge of all people.

IdahoCoug

8/15/18 10:33am

I haven't seen any studies that support this

Odysseus

8/15/18 10:39am

You mean a running QB getting hit is different than a running RB?

byuod

8/15/18 12:43pm

Ha. Daddy ball at the NCAA Level. This is what makes sports so fun, dads.

The Old Y

8/15/18 10:28am

It was prob suggested so he can see playing time, QB is crowded

stealth

8/15/18 10:28am

Unless my son WANTED to move to another position, I'd be PO'd, too.

BleedCougarBlue2

8/15/18 10:28am

The only thing that bothers me is it seems like no one communicated with Beau

Jurisprudence

8/15/18 10:30am

If this communication didn't happen I'd lose some respect for Grimes

CaliWG

8/15/18 10:36am

Beau said in an interview that he had been keeping it secret for a long time.

BlueBeliever

8/15/18 11:06am

Easy to keep a secret if you don't know the secret.

Jurisprudence

8/15/18 11:10am

Why would he be covering for the coaches?

BlueBeliever

8/15/18 11:30am

Fair points, but Beau wants to play, even if it's at RB.

Jurisprudence

8/15/18 11:35am

If you want to play covering for your coach works better than complaining

Metallicat

8/15/18 11:40am

Maybe he was worried about disappointing his dad or dealing with his father's

DJROSS

8/15/18 5:56pm

I don't know the details but maybe they thought Ula would be back

D.T. Survivor

8/15/18 11:20am

I thought he knew in April that he was going to switch?

TPcoug

8/15/18 10:37am

He didn't know it was permanent.

Jurisprudence

8/15/18 10:38am

That would be weird, if true.

Eddie

8/15/18 10:45am

You have the right to disagree or be upset. But you don’t air the dirty laundry publicly. It makes you

Zach Morris

8/15/18 10:30am

Complaining in public: totally agree.

BleedCougarBlue2

8/15/18 10:31am

We are thin at RB and we have too many QBs so it seems like we needed to do it

Jericho

8/15/18 10:28am

Once again... why doesn't this happen at Utah?

Coug

8/15/18 10:29am

Some of it may be due in part to having respected coaches

TNT

8/15/18 10:30am

Because the Utah coaches told him from the outset that they would give him a

Scratch

8/15/18 10:32am

You don't think that happened here?

Coug

8/15/18 10:34am

Doesn't sound like it. Sounds like the staff was wishy-washy and then didn't really give him a chance this year.

jaromp

8/15/18 10:38am

Beau says he's known since April he was moving to RB.

Eddie

8/15/18 10:40am

Apparently not from what his Dad is saying. I don't know what happened here, I

Scratch

8/15/18 10:38am

Beau came to BYU under Bronco. This is Kalani changing the agreement he came

Jericho

8/15/18 10:54am

Beau better pray Kalana doesn’t alter it any further.

The Chelsea Dagger

8/15/18 12:47pm

This deal's getting worse all the time!

Jericho

8/15/18 12:56pm

So - Chase was a QB for 2 yrs while on a mission? 🙂

Eddie

8/15/18 10:36am

Chase was a QB for a whole year pre-mission. Then, after his mission, he was a

Scratch

8/15/18 10:51am

How long did Paul Kruger get at QB? A couple weeks?

8/15/18 1:21pm

I’m guessing you would know, but my memory is that he played at safety thew

BlueTooth

8/15/18 2:09pm

Nope, it was a midseason switch that was suggested by Hansen. It was kind of

Scratch

8/15/18 4:49pm

Because it means something at BYU to be the QB

2FarGone

8/15/18 10:33am

Because Merrill is a professional football commentator and a regualr

IdahoCoug

8/15/18 10:39am

There is this weird entitled mentality at BYU that does not exist at Utah

DazeofBlue

8/15/18 10:43am

BYU doesn’t exactly have the greatest track record of developing LDS QBs…

The Chelsea Dagger

8/15/18 1:00pm

because we suck. KW has success and he has equity. he can do what he wants.

8/15/18 11:17am

True. Winning cures all.

IdahoCoug

8/15/18 11:26am

Probably because of the way the coaches handled it

NacoCoug

8/15/18 11:24am

Apathy. Not enough interest. If Trump does something crazy the media loves it,

doups3

8/15/18 1:49pm

It does. There isn't a Utes Sports nation that allows butthurt parents to vent

Backcountry

8/15/18 2:17pm

Because of the arrogant, entitled attitude permeating throughout BYU. Nothing ne

Bluegoogles

8/15/18 5:10pm

RE: Because of the arrogant, entitled attitude permeating throughout BYU.

Bluegoogles

8/15/18 5:14pm

BYU is better than USU

Richbyu

8/16/18 9:03am

BYU is better than USU, except we can't prove it in a game. 😹

Bluegoogles

8/16/18 7:10pm

Merrill, maybe he isnt as good as you (and many fans) think. Entitled thinking.

Count Cougar

8/15/18 10:32am

What's weird about this, is that in the original article, they seemed OK with it

Eddie

8/15/18 10:32am

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Abe Froman

8/15/18 10:34am

I noticed that too

shakarocks

8/15/18 12:03pm

This may explain why Kalani has been so complimentary of Hoge at RB.

8man

8/15/18 10:36am

As a fan I actually liked hoge at QB and thought he played better than tanner

8/15/18 10:36am

Ran better. Threw worse.

Jericho

8/15/18 10:37am

I disagree. Last year I think he threw better as well.

Unibro

8/15/18 10:39am

The stats say otherwise. Even Critch threw the ball better than Beau...

Jericho

8/15/18 10:40am

Yep

GOR

8/15/18 11:03am

Move to running back and play

8/15/18 10:40am

I would never want my kid to be QB

TheLost

8/15/18 10:54am

Sounds like a typical helicopter parent, unfortunately, regardless of the truth

Frank Castiglione

8/15/18 10:55am

Let's make Merrill happy and move his son back to QB4

GOR

8/15/18 11:04am

*5

Jurisprudence

8/15/18 11:09am

No disrespect to Merrill, but there are at least four other QB candidates

BlueBeliever

8/15/18 11:25am

If we get down to QB4 this year, maybe Beau will get a chance regardless...

Jericho

8/15/18 11:31am

Beau Hoge is an adult and probably would have been happy to handle this

D.T. Survivor

8/15/18 11:26am

After a 4-9 year, things happen. The objective is to win and the coaches

cougarnw

8/15/18 11:35am

Coach Lamb is proving to be a disaster hire. He has been poor all around.

Richbyu

8/15/18 12:13pm

Apparently he turned around SUU from a train wreck to a better place.

BYUButters

8/15/18 12:15pm

Ed Lamb has a very mediocre head coaching record at SUU.

Richbyu

8/15/18 12:18pm

The previous coach was 10-33, much worse

Jericho

8/15/18 12:25pm

He's so bad that SUU was freaking out when he left and tried to keep him.

Eddie

8/15/18 2:28pm

I dont agree with you

Jericho

8/15/18 12:16pm

Funny - Beau said he knew about

FanofBYU

8/15/18 12:14pm

His dad implied that he didn't know it was permanent

Jurisprudence

8/15/18 12:16pm

His dad also implied Ed Lamb is just a linebackers coach.

cougfanblue

8/15/18 12:29pm

I don’t get why it would be so suprising the change would last longer

D.T. Survivor

8/15/18 12:31pm

For real. He's a senior.

GOR

8/15/18 12:36pm

Wow. Merrill publicly ripping on Ed Lamb. I'll bet the BYUtv "rah rah" guys

Richbyu

8/15/18 12:24pm

MOVE HIM BACK TO 4th STRING QB IMMEDIATELY!!!

canofpicante

8/15/18 12:42pm

Do you want your son to play or not Merrill? his best chance is at RB

CougarsFanSince80s

8/15/18 1:02pm

And ironicaly he's doing really well. Prolly should have been there the whole

BYUButters

8/15/18 1:12pm

If I was KW and other coaches

FanofBYU

8/15/18 1:38pm

That's the problem.

wilsdad

8/15/18 2:05pm

Please. Take a closer look at where Critchlow is positioned.

Eddie

8/15/18 2:14pm

That's not where Critchlow was when the move was made, right?

wilsdad

8/15/18 2:20pm

Look less intelligent how?

Eddie

8/15/18 2:35pm

I hope that's how it went.

wilsdad

8/15/18 5:22pm

Merrill should be mocked mercilessly for this. He is acting like like a child

Backcountry

8/15/18 2:18pm

Sit down, Merrill.

partybog

8/15/18 3:55pm

Tip of the iceberg folk. Lot of problems under Kalani

Coogar2

8/15/18 5:34pm

As he should

Coogar2

8/15/18 5:47pm

Having a family herritage with a certian school can be great and motivating, but

stealth

8/16/18 9:16am

I didn't think there was a heritage with BYU.

Eddie

8/16/18 9:31am

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