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Jun 22, 2019
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if you get 3/4 4stars a year you'll potentially have 12 to 16 on your team each
year. That makes a big difference. Even two a year is 8 most likely starters.
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Maybe the key to BYU's football success isn't getting into a P5 conference
lbmango
6/22/19 12:50pm
Good write up
Heinz57
6/22/19 12:56pm
Missouri, Houston, Boise, and Stanford are good games next year
AF Cougar
6/22/19 1:14pm
Not bad at all, thanks for pointing that out
SingleStrapBackpack
6/22/19 1:17pm
I think the thing that would help us most would be for individual teams to
puntersarepeople
6/22/19 1:19pm
Why would other conferences make a concession to give BYU access to one of
BigBrotherUte
6/22/19 1:21pm
Getting the P12 to put BYU-Utah opposite the annual USC-ND game in Oct or Nov
The Chelsea Dagger
6/22/19 2:11pm
I love the rivalry game but it's much better as a prep game for conference play
BigBrotherUte
6/22/19 2:35pm
It's much better AS a conference game. Can you put in a good word?
SingleStrapBackpack
6/22/19 2:46pm
🙂 That would definitely make the rivalry game one of the best in the country.
BigBrotherUte
6/22/19 3:19pm
Why don't you crawl back to the Ute Board.
kahuna
6/22/19 7:49pm
I love your thinking but do we have any leverage for #1? Doubt it.
GOR
6/22/19 3:02pm
It comes down to winning
Seasider
6/22/19 3:09pm
And if BYU would join a G5 team, they'd have no problem winning 9-10 games, and being ranked at the end of the season.
whitey1980
6/22/19 5:51pm
INDY is like playing 8 bowl games a year
Coogar2
6/22/19 3:27pm
Wrestling and Women's Gymnastics
HawkeyeCoug
6/22/19 4:37pm
Winning solves all ills. Start winning 10-11 games/year
Yohy
6/22/19 5:19pm
You forgot P5 will win recruiting battles 99% of the time vs non-P5,
blackshirts
6/22/19 5:50pm
Utes rarely land 4 and 5 star recruits
Level43
6/22/19 6:09pm
Only the elite teams recruit more than a handful of 4-5 star recruits. The key is development. That's where Utah has
whitey1980
6/22/19 7:18pm
This is true.
DocPimp
6/22/19 8:59pm
if you get 3/4 4stars a year you'll potentially have 12 to 16 on your team each
blackshirts
6/22/19 11:57pm
So you don't think we can get a couple 4* a year?
Level43
6/23/19 8:50am
Who we got this year? Gentry and hopefully Richie?
puntersarepeople
6/23/19 8:59am
I can tell you out of 385 4/5 stars in 2018 only 6 when non-P5.
blackshirts
6/23/19 11:27am
Notre Dame had 14
Level43
6/23/19 11:38am
Notre Dame is much, much better. And bigger. They're a Top-5 all-time program.
whitey1980
6/23/19 5:05pm
They're not P5.
Level43
6/23/19 5:11pm
They don't belong to a P5 conference, but they were in the playoff last year. Not all Indy teams are equal.
whitey1980
6/23/19 5:31pm
BYU's brand is better than many P5s.
Level43
6/23/19 6:13pm
What does that matter? You're in or out. Unless you're ND with 11 NC's.
blackshirts
6/23/19 6:20pm
Here's the thing for me
Level43
6/23/19 6:31pm
On paper INDY, but in every other way the NCAA considers ND P5 and only ND.
blackshirts
6/23/19 5:53pm
It’s not 99% of the time but it does matter
puntersarepeople
6/22/19 6:24pm
Right, 98.44%
blackshirts
6/23/19 11:28am
BYU has a distinct advantage with the LDS connection...
DocPimp
6/22/19 8:58pm
People discount this ^. BYU also get Polys looks
BOOHOLE
6/23/19 6:33am
We are still at a disadvantage
puntersarepeople
6/23/19 8:43am
Disadvantaged to who? What other program has these automatic looks?
BOOHOLE
6/24/19 11:28am
We do get some looks from top tier guys but we miss out on a lot more average pl
puntersarepeople
6/24/19 11:33am
There are a lot of programs that don’t get the looks BYU gets.
BOOHOLE
6/24/19 2:12pm
Boise probably does recruit better than us
puntersarepeople
6/24/19 6:11pm
Unfortunately of late "looks" are all most have amount to. When the big offers have come, they've gone elsewhere.
SingleStrapBackpack
6/23/19 11:12am
BYU definitely wins more than 1% of recruiting battles with P5. Happens often.
BYUCLA
6/23/19 8:48am
Apparently there is some discussion about the new ESPN deal doing something with
Resurgens
6/22/19 7:00pm
That's what I'd like to see too. It may be hard for some players to not think
CheeseburgerEddie
6/22/19 9:17pm
The problem is every BYU schedule has to be negotiated
run26
6/22/19 7:14pm
ups and downs, yes – but it has gotten a lot better overall from 2011 until 2021
SingleStrapBackpack
6/22/19 7:24pm
BYU will never get into a P5 conference.....
BYU Grounds
6/22/19 8:07pm
Again with the victim mentality...be better than that.
DocPimp
6/22/19 9:01pm
It’s true that BYU will have a tough time getting in because of politics
puntersarepeople
6/22/19 10:55pm
I don't think very many people would dispute that BYU's affiliation to The Church has affected its ability to join a P5
whitey1980
6/23/19 5:50pm
Playing an OOC P5 game is not the same as conference rivalries and implications
lilpenny
6/23/19 7:36am
Meh. It's the best option we have. I'll take whatever logic gets us there
Resurgens
6/23/19 11:56am
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