Getting the P12 to put BYU-Utah opposite the annual USC-ND game in Oct or Nov

Jun 22, 2019
2:11:28pm

The Chelsea Dagger Contributor

Would be a good start to alleviating the front loading issue. It would take some big support from Utah and some other potentially friendly Pac 12 ADs to get this done, so it could be tough as long as Utah remains so lukewarm to the BYU rivalry.

Report problem with this ad

The Chelsea Dagger

Previous username: Chelsea Dagger
New username: Ski-U-Mah
Bio page: The Chelsea Dagger
Joined: Jun 28, 2017
Last login: Jun 14, 2022
Total posts: 0 (0 FO)

Report problem with this ad

Messages

Author

Time

Maybe the key to BYU's football success isn't getting into a P5 conference

lbmango

6/22/19 12:50pm

Good write up

Heinz57

6/22/19 12:56pm

Missouri, Houston, Boise, and Stanford are good games next year

AF Cougar

6/22/19 1:14pm

Not bad at all, thanks for pointing that out

SingleStrapBackpack

6/22/19 1:17pm

I think the thing that would help us most would be for individual teams to

puntersarepeople

6/22/19 1:19pm

Why would other conferences make a concession to give BYU access to one of

BigBrotherUte

6/22/19 1:21pm

Getting the P12 to put BYU-Utah opposite the annual USC-ND game in Oct or Nov

The Chelsea Dagger

6/22/19 2:11pm

I love the rivalry game but it's much better as a prep game for conference play

BigBrotherUte

6/22/19 2:35pm

It's much better AS a conference game. Can you put in a good word?

SingleStrapBackpack

6/22/19 2:46pm

🙂 That would definitely make the rivalry game one of the best in the country.

BigBrotherUte

6/22/19 3:19pm

Why don't you crawl back to the Ute Board.

kahuna

6/22/19 7:49pm

I love your thinking but do we have any leverage for #1? Doubt it.

GOR

6/22/19 3:02pm

It comes down to winning

Seasider

6/22/19 3:09pm

And if BYU would join a G5 team, they'd have no problem winning 9-10 games, and being ranked at the end of the season.

whitey1980

6/22/19 5:51pm

INDY is like playing 8 bowl games a year

Coogar2

6/22/19 3:27pm

Wrestling and Women's Gymnastics

HawkeyeCoug

6/22/19 4:37pm

Winning solves all ills. Start winning 10-11 games/year

Yohy

6/22/19 5:19pm

You forgot P5 will win recruiting battles 99% of the time vs non-P5,

blackshirts

6/22/19 5:50pm

Utes rarely land 4 and 5 star recruits

Level43

6/22/19 6:09pm

Only the elite teams recruit more than a handful of 4-5 star recruits. The key is development. That's where Utah has

whitey1980

6/22/19 7:18pm

This is true.

DocPimp

6/22/19 8:59pm

if you get 3/4 4stars a year you'll potentially have 12 to 16 on your team each

blackshirts

6/22/19 11:57pm

So you don't think we can get a couple 4* a year?

Level43

6/23/19 8:50am

Who we got this year? Gentry and hopefully Richie?

puntersarepeople

6/23/19 8:59am

I can tell you out of 385 4/5 stars in 2018 only 6 when non-P5.

blackshirts

6/23/19 11:27am

Notre Dame had 14

Level43

6/23/19 11:38am

Notre Dame is much, much better. And bigger. They're a Top-5 all-time program.

whitey1980

6/23/19 5:05pm

They're not P5.

Level43

6/23/19 5:11pm

They don't belong to a P5 conference, but they were in the playoff last year. Not all Indy teams are equal.

whitey1980

6/23/19 5:31pm

BYU's brand is better than many P5s.

Level43

6/23/19 6:13pm

What does that matter? You're in or out. Unless you're ND with 11 NC's.

blackshirts

6/23/19 6:20pm

Here's the thing for me

Level43

6/23/19 6:31pm

On paper INDY, but in every other way the NCAA considers ND P5 and only ND.

blackshirts

6/23/19 5:53pm

It’s not 99% of the time but it does matter

puntersarepeople

6/22/19 6:24pm

Right, 98.44%

blackshirts

6/23/19 11:28am

BYU has a distinct advantage with the LDS connection...

DocPimp

6/22/19 8:58pm

People discount this ^. BYU also get Polys looks

BOOHOLE

6/23/19 6:33am

We are still at a disadvantage

puntersarepeople

6/23/19 8:43am

Disadvantaged to who? What other program has these automatic looks?

BOOHOLE

6/24/19 11:28am

We do get some looks from top tier guys but we miss out on a lot more average pl

puntersarepeople

6/24/19 11:33am

There are a lot of programs that don’t get the looks BYU gets.

BOOHOLE

6/24/19 2:12pm

Boise probably does recruit better than us

puntersarepeople

6/24/19 6:11pm

Unfortunately of late "looks" are all most have amount to. When the big offers have come, they've gone elsewhere.

SingleStrapBackpack

6/23/19 11:12am

BYU definitely wins more than 1% of recruiting battles with P5. Happens often.

BYUCLA

6/23/19 8:48am

Apparently there is some discussion about the new ESPN deal doing something with

Resurgens

6/22/19 7:00pm

That's what I'd like to see too. It may be hard for some players to not think

CheeseburgerEddie

6/22/19 9:17pm

The problem is every BYU schedule has to be negotiated

run26

6/22/19 7:14pm

ups and downs, yes – but it has gotten a lot better overall from 2011 until 2021

SingleStrapBackpack

6/22/19 7:24pm

BYU will never get into a P5 conference.....

BYU Grounds

6/22/19 8:07pm

Again with the victim mentality...be better than that.

DocPimp

6/22/19 9:01pm

It’s true that BYU will have a tough time getting in because of politics

puntersarepeople

6/22/19 10:55pm

I don't think very many people would dispute that BYU's affiliation to The Church has affected its ability to join a P5

whitey1980

6/23/19 5:50pm

Playing an OOC P5 game is not the same as conference rivalries and implications

lilpenny

6/23/19 7:36am

Meh. It's the best option we have. I'll take whatever logic gets us there

Posting on CougarBoard