It comes down to winning

Jun 22, 2019
3:09:15pm

Seasider All-American

If BYU is winning and getting in the top 25 on a consistent basis, you probably would not be hearing a lot people clamoring for BYU to settle for a G5 conference.

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Maybe the key to BYU's football success isn't getting into a P5 conference

lbmango

6/22/19 12:50pm

Good write up

Heinz57

6/22/19 12:56pm

Missouri, Houston, Boise, and Stanford are good games next year

AF Cougar

6/22/19 1:14pm

Not bad at all, thanks for pointing that out

SingleStrapBackpack

6/22/19 1:17pm

I think the thing that would help us most would be for individual teams to

puntersarepeople

6/22/19 1:19pm

Why would other conferences make a concession to give BYU access to one of

BigBrotherUte

6/22/19 1:21pm

Getting the P12 to put BYU-Utah opposite the annual USC-ND game in Oct or Nov

The Chelsea Dagger

6/22/19 2:11pm

I love the rivalry game but it's much better as a prep game for conference play

BigBrotherUte

6/22/19 2:35pm

It's much better AS a conference game. Can you put in a good word?

SingleStrapBackpack

6/22/19 2:46pm

🙂 That would definitely make the rivalry game one of the best in the country.

BigBrotherUte

6/22/19 3:19pm

Why don't you crawl back to the Ute Board.

kahuna

6/22/19 7:49pm

I love your thinking but do we have any leverage for #1? Doubt it.

GOR

6/22/19 3:02pm

It comes down to winning

Seasider

6/22/19 3:09pm

And if BYU would join a G5 team, they'd have no problem winning 9-10 games, and being ranked at the end of the season.

whitey1980

6/22/19 5:51pm

INDY is like playing 8 bowl games a year

Coogar2

6/22/19 3:27pm

Wrestling and Women's Gymnastics

HawkeyeCoug

6/22/19 4:37pm

Winning solves all ills. Start winning 10-11 games/year

Yohy

6/22/19 5:19pm

You forgot P5 will win recruiting battles 99% of the time vs non-P5,

blackshirts

6/22/19 5:50pm

Utes rarely land 4 and 5 star recruits

Level43

6/22/19 6:09pm

Only the elite teams recruit more than a handful of 4-5 star recruits. The key is development. That's where Utah has

whitey1980

6/22/19 7:18pm

This is true.

DocPimp

6/22/19 8:59pm

if you get 3/4 4stars a year you'll potentially have 12 to 16 on your team each

blackshirts

6/22/19 11:57pm

So you don't think we can get a couple 4* a year?

Level43

6/23/19 8:50am

Who we got this year? Gentry and hopefully Richie?

puntersarepeople

6/23/19 8:59am

I can tell you out of 385 4/5 stars in 2018 only 6 when non-P5.

blackshirts

6/23/19 11:27am

Notre Dame had 14

Level43

6/23/19 11:38am

Notre Dame is much, much better. And bigger. They're a Top-5 all-time program.

whitey1980

6/23/19 5:05pm

They're not P5.

Level43

6/23/19 5:11pm

They don't belong to a P5 conference, but they were in the playoff last year. Not all Indy teams are equal.

whitey1980

6/23/19 5:31pm

BYU's brand is better than many P5s.

Level43

6/23/19 6:13pm

What does that matter? You're in or out. Unless you're ND with 11 NC's.

blackshirts

6/23/19 6:20pm

Here's the thing for me

Level43

6/23/19 6:31pm

On paper INDY, but in every other way the NCAA considers ND P5 and only ND.

blackshirts

6/23/19 5:53pm

It’s not 99% of the time but it does matter

puntersarepeople

6/22/19 6:24pm

Right, 98.44%

blackshirts

6/23/19 11:28am

BYU has a distinct advantage with the LDS connection...

DocPimp

6/22/19 8:58pm

People discount this ^. BYU also get Polys looks

BOOHOLE

6/23/19 6:33am

We are still at a disadvantage

puntersarepeople

6/23/19 8:43am

Disadvantaged to who? What other program has these automatic looks?

BOOHOLE

6/24/19 11:28am

We do get some looks from top tier guys but we miss out on a lot more average pl

puntersarepeople

6/24/19 11:33am

There are a lot of programs that don’t get the looks BYU gets.

BOOHOLE

6/24/19 2:12pm

Boise probably does recruit better than us

puntersarepeople

6/24/19 6:11pm

Unfortunately of late "looks" are all most have amount to. When the big offers have come, they've gone elsewhere.

SingleStrapBackpack

6/23/19 11:12am

BYU definitely wins more than 1% of recruiting battles with P5. Happens often.

BYUCLA

6/23/19 8:48am

Apparently there is some discussion about the new ESPN deal doing something with

Resurgens

6/22/19 7:00pm

That's what I'd like to see too. It may be hard for some players to not think

CheeseburgerEddie

6/22/19 9:17pm

The problem is every BYU schedule has to be negotiated

run26

6/22/19 7:14pm

ups and downs, yes – but it has gotten a lot better overall from 2011 until 2021

SingleStrapBackpack

6/22/19 7:24pm

BYU will never get into a P5 conference.....

BYU Grounds

6/22/19 8:07pm

Again with the victim mentality...be better than that.

DocPimp

6/22/19 9:01pm

It’s true that BYU will have a tough time getting in because of politics

puntersarepeople

6/22/19 10:55pm

I don't think very many people would dispute that BYU's affiliation to The Church has affected its ability to join a P5

whitey1980

6/23/19 5:50pm

Playing an OOC P5 game is not the same as conference rivalries and implications

lilpenny

6/23/19 7:36am

Meh. It's the best option we have. I'll take whatever logic gets us there

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