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Jan 8, 2020
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Y05
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Do you really mean what you wrote about Hawaii?
What was it? 7 2nd half points? INT on final drive.
How does the QB not take the brunt of the blame for that? Especially when Hifo kept setting up the offense with good or great field position?
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Zach Wilson's record against G5 teams:
Dangerous
1/8/20 1:30pm
That’s not good.
Brigham
1/8/20 1:36pm
I must say I was disappointed in his regression this year. I haven't completely
Goliath
1/8/20 1:38pm
See also: Heaps and Mangum. It's a pattern.
SandYFan
1/8/20 1:44pm
I'm concerned this may be the case. Heaps and Mangum's best years were...
icecougar
1/9/20 7:41pm
Well, he did go 6 weeks through the year without throwing the football
cougfan03
1/8/20 1:54pm
That was through the season....how many weeks during the off-season was he
StarMan
1/8/20 2:04pm
I am hoping problems this year are due to injury and things will improve
pappabear246
1/8/20 9:02pm
Yikes!
Costanza
1/8/20 1:42pm
BSU was even worse than just "drove to the goal line but couldn't score"
byubyu
1/8/20 1:44pm
Gotta say, his decision making in the RPO left a lot to be desired
ldssdl
1/8/20 2:15pm
That was as a true freshman in his 3rd ever start
donnerstag
1/8/20 2:17pm
After a timeout right? Coaches are part to blame but everyone knows you can't
byubyu
1/8/20 2:20pm
Yet Baylor Romney in his first career start converts key 4th downs in a win
Dangerous
1/8/20 2:22pm
Go watch the film and see what Baylor does on that play. Then return and report.
All-American
1/8/20 3:39pm
I'll tell what he didn't do the entire game: give the ball to the other team.
byubyu
1/8/20 4:10pm
Zach has never fumbled on a QB sneak
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 4:51pm
There's byubyu to insult players in only a way he knows how like usual.
Lip Gallagher
1/8/20 6:42pm
And where is he wrong ?
BYU DUDE 1984
1/8/20 8:01pm
Coaching. Coaching. Coaching.
StalwartBraveTrue
1/9/20 4:58pm
but that always worked back at Corner Canyon!
icecougar
1/14/20 12:09pm
GLad he has a healthy offseason this year. No excuses heading into 2020 now. Takes the next step or gets replaced.
Turnpike Lane
1/8/20 1:44pm
He'll never get replaced unless he's hurt. KS has benched exactly zero QB's in
Ash
1/8/20 2:12pm
What games should he have benched the QB? Genuinely asking
rcbyufan
1/8/20 2:14pm
SDSU and Hawaii.
Dangerous
1/8/20 2:15pm
For Critchlow or for the hobbled Romney?
rcbyufan
1/8/20 2:25pm
Hall was cleared and ready against Hawaii. SDSU harder to say.
Dangerous
1/8/20 2:28pm
Nobody seems to agree, but I would start Hall. Best upside of the whole bunch.
Forzaitalia
1/8/20 3:50pm
Off the top of my head. Mangum vs Cal. ZW vs SDSU and Hawaii.
Ash
1/8/20 2:17pm
I would agree with your approach.
rcbyufan
1/8/20 2:26pm
Magnum won vs Wisconsin. Baylor and Jaren were possibly injured
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 4:52pm
As I said, benching a QB in a game does not permanently demote him. But someone
Ash
1/8/20 6:51pm
Yes but you don’t bench a guy in game 2. Or every time he has adversity. You
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 8:15pm
Guys. Benching =/ permanent demotion!
Ash
1/8/20 10:26pm
True but how long?
puntersarepeople
1/9/20 2:40pm
The rest of the game. Then he's back out there. That's a start and is better
Ash
1/9/20 3:19pm
Yes but in all your examples you assumed two things
puntersarepeople
1/9/20 5:42pm
Hawaii benched their starter against BYU in the 2nd half for a series.
ldssdl
1/8/20 2:24pm
I would agree with such an approach. I'm not sure how many opportunities
rcbyufan
1/8/20 2:28pm
And that didn’t work.
All-American
1/8/20 4:16pm
He could have benched Taysom during one of the Utah games. Can’t remember which one it was but
Zach Morris
1/8/20 4:20pm
I thought that was the UCLA game
ldssdl
1/8/20 6:27pm
This, you’re right. Taysom was awful that game.
Zach Morris
1/8/20 7:31pm
Correct. That's another one. Mangum should have been brought in. He did better v
Ash
1/8/20 7:48pm
Potentially wrong again. What if he was 2017 Mangum?
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 8:14pm
2016 Mangum was coming off his pretty good freshman season. Turns out Detmer
Ash
1/8/20 10:25pm
The coaches may have knew he wasn’t a good option
puntersarepeople
1/9/20 2:42pm
Partially true. Nothing happened between 2015 and 2016 to Tanner other
Ash
1/9/20 3:22pm
We don’t know. So why would we assume he was great in 2016?
puntersarepeople
1/9/20 5:45pm
You trust this staff. Yikes. We'll disagree on that one. Again, he has never
Ash
1/9/20 9:04pm
People still think we should have benched Taysom for Tanner? Yeah, no.
All-American
1/8/20 10:18pm
Reading is hard. Benching a player for half of a game and putting them back in
Ash
1/8/20 10:24pm
Yeah, no.
All-American
1/9/20 5:06am
Context. The UCLA game I mentioned, Taysom was playing so poorly that even Kalani
Zach Morris
1/8/20 10:34pm
I see your context and raise you any game Tanner played in 2017-19.
All-American
1/9/20 5:54pm
It was probably the one where we were gifted 6 TO's and still could barely move
Ash
1/8/20 6:53pm
He benched Mangum (though not in-game)
Dangerous
1/8/20 2:15pm
Link when this happened?
Gerald-DeGroot
1/9/20 1:45am
*crickets
Gerald-DeGroot
1/9/20 1:59pm
not sure that will happen. Seems like the QB1 position is a lifetime appointment
icecougar
1/15/20 6:40pm
Here's the deal with his 5 losses
donnerstag
1/8/20 2:44pm
Do you really mean what you wrote about Hawaii?
Y05
1/8/20 5:13pm
He's blaming the D.
Ash
1/8/20 6:54pm
Zach had a very bad game against Hawaii. His PER was 107. He threw to the grass on the pivotal, game ending play
Bob Vance
1/8/20 6:18pm
BYU very well could have scored 44 points
donnerstag
1/8/20 6:56pm
interesting assortment of excuses...
icecougar
1/13/20 11:33am
Here's a good idea. Let's all complain about a kid that has competitive fire and
TailgateU
1/8/20 3:58pm
If he's not ready to play, don't play him.
HONOMO
1/8/20 4:23pm
RE: Here's a good idea. Let's all complain about a kid that has competitive fire
akbarishiwatsu
1/8/20 4:38pm
Sophomore Slump. Will we see a Junior Jump?
Archaea
1/8/20 4:05pm
but he's talented so he should unquestionably start over the dude who
HONOMO
1/8/20 4:18pm
With trick plays
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 4:55pm
The same trick plays they use when ZW is playing.
Plato
1/8/20 6:02pm
They didn’t trick anybody with ZW because they’d ran them over an over
puntersarepeople
1/8/20 6:05pm
LOL. Romney completed passes on third down. We have not seen Zach do that well
Ash
1/8/20 6:56pm
Meanwhile Baylor Romney...did nothing but Shine
CT98
1/8/20 4:24pm
Liberty
All-American
1/8/20 10:19pm
#FreeBaylor
ocho quatro
1/8/20 5:19pm
sounds dangerous
franklyvulgar
1/8/20 5:35pm
experience should carry the day in 2020
chestercougar
1/8/20 5:53pm
Experience is awesome as a bonus to good play. Experience doesn’t mean much with poor play.
Zach Morris
1/8/20 6:25pm
RE: Experience is awesome as a bonus to good play. Experience doesn’t mean
chestercougar
1/8/20 8:53pm
Yeah. It should absolutely be a open QB Comp this offseason. Truth.
Gerald-DeGroot
1/8/20 5:53pm
John Beck was below .500 against G5 teams through his sophomore season
donnerstag
1/8/20 8:25pm
but this is evening out due to how much time and reps Zach has missed and...
icecougar
1/14/20 1:00pm
Go easy on the guy; he will get there
Born in Provo
1/8/20 11:19pm
Horrible!
dodgersjazzcougs
1/9/20 9:04am
That makes him look very average.
eddog
1/9/20 10:08am
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