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So I am the only non Astro fan who doesn’t think the sign stealing thing is a
cougarfann888
2/17/20 9:46pm
I'm with you. I don't really care
Mathew
2/17/20 9:48pm
I would imagine most any team would rather have you video a practice than
BYUheaven
2/17/20 9:49pm
They are videoing signs in public sure from a. Different vantage point than the
cougarfann888
2/17/20 9:51pm
Well I think you’re uneducated then - guys like Trout, Hank Aaron, Bellinger all
BYUfan92
2/17/20 9:51pm
I am not saying not a big deal and they shouldn’t be punished
cougarfann888
2/17/20 9:54pm
And I’m saying your opinion is the minority and opposite guys like Aaron & Trout
BYUfan92
2/17/20 10:01pm
I mean I am siding with arbitrators the ones create and enforce rules
cougarfann888
2/17/20 10:07pm
Lol. Terrible argument.
Sid Vicious
2/17/20 10:14pm
What arbitrators are you referring to, you lost me?
BYUfan92
2/17/20 10:15pm
Arbitrators? Have you even followed the scandal? None of the players got
califcougar
2/17/20 10:28pm
Sorry arbitrators was the wrong word because that is the next level of appeal
cougarfann888
2/17/20 10:46pm
So, Manfred, that’s it. And he’s contradicted himself already. No judges
califcougar
2/17/20 10:48pm
Mlb doled out no punishments.
Sid Vicious
2/17/20 10:09pm
And Johnny Bench, who said he'd bat .700 if he knew what pitch was coming next.
germm
2/17/20 10:19pm
No Astro batted even 400!
Busiturtle
2/18/20 3:54am
No they just aren't as good as Johnny.
IceCreamButt
2/18/20 7:26am
Do you believe that the Astro's sign stealing directly impacted the 2017 WS?
tarzan15
2/17/20 9:51pm
I believe some level of cheating has affected probably 90% of ws
cougarfann888
2/17/20 9:58pm
The difference... players were disciplined for every issue you just brought up.
dchandle15
2/17/20 10:07pm
Bonds and McGwire were punished?
cougarfann888
2/17/20 10:13pm
Boy, you totally deflected the answer. Just answer “yes” or “no”
idacoug
2/17/20 10:11pm
There have been players punished for every crime against baseball you named...
dchandle15
2/17/20 10:37pm
Sign stealing is not ok. They are only stolen when tipped. Imagine in the NBA
777
2/17/20 9:53pm
I thought everyone agreed trying to steal and figure out baseball signs was ok
cougarfann888
2/17/20 9:55pm
No, players look for things like how the pitcher dips his shoulder or if the
777
2/17/20 10:02pm
You can video tape all you want just cant use that in real time
gmj81
2/17/20 10:07pm
Are you suggesting that’s all the Astros did?
garyfan
2/17/20 10:13pm
It is only not okay of it is against the rules.
Baron
2/17/20 10:01pm
Maybe you’d take it a bit more personally if
WY_CougFan
2/17/20 9:58pm
If the As made it to game 7 of World Series I would be excited even if they lost
cougarfann888
2/17/20 10:00pm
Way to be honest
LakeshowCougs
2/17/20 10:47pm
The A's have been cheated out of 3 straight division titles. He should be mad.
777
2/17/20 10:12pm
Listen to Trout's comments today about if he knew the pitch was going to be
Blue for Life
2/17/20 9:59pm
I have a cousin that really likes cheating at games.
jackcrack7
2/17/20 9:59pm
Two things:
garyfan
2/17/20 10:00pm
Good analogies here.
ChiCityCoug
2/17/20 10:02pm
I’m an Astros fan who thinks the punishment was warranted, but now the
BigD Coug
2/17/20 10:06pm
It's blowing up in part because your team can't get out of its own way. Their PR on this has been horrible. And it
CouchPotato
2/17/20 10:09pm
Also true unfortunately
gmj81
2/17/20 10:14pm
Won’t deny that. It’s a wonder how Crane ever became a billionaire.
BigD Coug
2/17/20 10:20pm
How about the stupid owner saying in one interview that he doesn't think it
Blue for Life
2/17/20 10:13pm
Haha. Astros fans trying to minimize this is great.
garyfan
2/17/20 10:15pm
My intent was not to minimize it. Take the World Series title & have a parade
BigD Coug
2/17/20 10:30pm
Dodger fans don't want the title or the parade.
garyfan
2/17/20 10:36pm
Sounds like we’re on the same page then.
BigD Coug
2/17/20 10:44pm
RE: I’m an Astros fan who thinks the punishment was warranted, but now the
Pee Wee Reese
2/17/20 10:16pm
They also angered all of the players in the league. Not just Dodgers and Yankees
califcougar
2/17/20 10:39pm
Maybe I’m missing something, but why don’t the teams change
OBXCougar
2/17/20 10:14pm
It only takes one pitch to figure out the signs for the rest of the inning.
777
2/17/20 10:16pm
I don't even religiously follow baseball and that's not remotely true
gmj81
2/17/20 10:24pm
What are you talking about? It's an offspeed pitch or it isn't. It takes one
777
2/17/20 10:28pm
Any catcher or pitchers will tell you with all the signs they put down
gmj81
2/18/20 4:21am
Not if technology was used. Ear piece or an electronic board with a series of
OBXCougar
2/17/20 10:27pm
RE: Maybe I’m missing something, but why don’t the teams change
BYUfan92
2/17/20 10:25pm
It's a really big deal because it gave one team an unfair advantage, it was
germm
2/17/20 10:28pm
Worse than steroids?
Josef K
2/17/20 10:31pm
Yes
Colorado
2/17/20 10:31pm
Absolutely. Organized crime. Most if not all players, coaches involved.
germm
2/17/20 10:32pm
No question imo..
cougfanz
2/17/20 10:33pm
Don’t remember players speaking up about steroids like this, those that have
califcougar
2/17/20 10:42pm
Much. This involved cheating from management level to player level, including th
BYUfan92
2/17/20 10:45pm
But it's so much easier to combat. Change your dang signs
gmj81
2/18/20 4:31am
Not really when the Astros where using computers and cameras - opponents could
BYUfan92
2/18/20 11:55am
Yup. They got big & strong bla bla . . . They didn't know what pitch was coming.
LakeshowCougs
2/17/20 10:49pm
Right, cuz it's all about hits and misses is it?
gmj81
2/18/20 4:30am
Maybe go listen to Mark Teixeira . . . He breaks it down pretty well.
LakeshowCougs
2/18/20 7:30am
I would say you're on a small, ugly, and sparsely populated island.
Countcougula
2/17/20 10:43pm
My argument has always been the same
troutmaster13
2/18/20 4:59am
So you're saying the teams playing the Astros all knew they
germm
2/18/20 8:20am
Stealing signs from second base if you can figure them out is perfectly fine.
Colorado
2/18/20 8:34am
No one has said stealing signs isn’t ok. What isn’t ok is having a video feed in
califcougar
2/18/20 8:48am
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