What is the one or the other choice? It's a tight rope we are walking

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Mar 29, 2020
9:42:03pm

Jacksonian76 3rd String

What is the one or the other choice? It's a tight rope we are walking

I agree famine and war aren't forgone. They are just risks at this point. Risks that need t be calculated into our response.

Please look up the stats on deaths, not cases, but deaths. The median age for death in Italy was 78 as of Friday. Down from 81 the week before. 99.2% had pre-existing conditions. Those are undisputed facts.

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Jacksonian76

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A lot of Truth in this reader comment from another forum

Busiturtle

3/28/20 6:45am

What are the fundamental differences between how our fire fighting system is

Uncle Bluto

3/28/20 6:50am

Me thinks you don’t understand why the healthcare system isn’t/wasn’t ready

Littlerich

3/28/20 6:51am

Yep, completely applicable comparison. So you'd have hospitals build huge

slowhiteguy

3/28/20 6:55am

Don't forget all the extra Drs and nurses on staff waiting for the surge

Tare

3/28/20 6:57am

Absolutely, we should be ready to handle a once in a 100 years illness.

Jacksonian76

3/28/20 8:16am

Hospitals operate on thin margins and you expect them

BYU '80

3/28/20 9:25am

All this happened at a time when hospitals and other

KingDave

3/28/20 9:53am

Would it costmore than shutting down the economy for months on end?

Jacksonian76

3/28/20 9:54am

It wouldn’t be worth it

KingDave

3/28/20 10:10am

The last global depression led right into WW2.

Jacksonian76

3/28/20 10:31am

Wow don’t know where to start to address this post

BYU '80

3/29/20 2:35am

My point is the cost of every other technology, even cutting

Jacksonian76

3/29/20 7:49am

Busiturtle advocating for socialized medicine? Strange times indeed.

Tare

3/28/20 6:55am

Cause the VA health system is so amazing.

slowhiteguy

3/28/20 7:00am

You have to pay for VA healthcare unless you incurred a severe medical issue

Lieutenant America

3/28/20 7:48pm

Yeah, and while we’ve got the pitchforks out, how about TP manufacturers!!

NOCAL_YFAN

3/28/20 7:07am

Well excrement makers obviously stepped up production.

CougarThug

3/28/20 9:09am

Actually TP supply matches demand very well.

CougarThug

3/28/20 9:14am

Example: Hospital has 50 ventilators. 400 people need them at once. 350 dead.

dave

3/28/20 7:27am

Actually, for urban areas the answer is yes.

Busiturtle

3/28/20 7:33am

Talk, talk, talk, and no actual preparation

Busiturtle

3/28/20 7:44am

You gonna pay for that? Ever priced those things out?

dave

3/28/20 9:48am

If you are advocating socialized medicine, you have not seen it first hand.

coolblue

3/28/20 7:33am

I think this is more of a military need right now. We give 600 billion a year

tawillin

3/28/20 7:34am

Nuke SARS COV 2!!!

Lieutenant America

3/28/20 8:34pm

Board name subtitle checks out

SingleStrapBackpack

3/28/20 7:40am

Agreed. Those dissenting voices do not understand that

Recipefordisaster

3/28/20 7:58am

Socialized medicine or not, there isn't a medical system in the world prepared

superdoo

3/28/20 8:24am

Great post

BYU '80

3/28/20 9:29am

Preach brother.

777

3/28/20 3:13pm

Stop being so logical, you might offend someone 😉

seacougar

3/28/20 7:07pm

South Korea handled it just fine

Zoobieman

3/29/20 3:10pm

Sorry, that's dumb.

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 8:57am

Please elaborate...

Recipefordisaster

3/28/20 9:01am

Healthcare system is more than emergency room/icu measures.

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 9:12am

I like this busiturtle person. The turtle calls it like it is!

TheWoodman

3/28/20 9:01am

Hard to ramp up a pandemic response when critical items like pharmaceuticals...

CougarThug

3/28/20 9:23am

Healthcare didn’t fail. The feds did

BYU '80

3/28/20 9:28am

I'm not sure the feds have failed yet either...

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 9:41am

Fair enough

BYU '80

3/29/20 2:38am

By this logic, every business person should have set aside enough $$ to cover this acute event and be ready for it.

3/28/20 9:44am

You'll see big change in medical costs if Trump's rule for hospitals to show

gingi

3/28/20 9:48am

If medical costs go down then medical responsiveness will go down...

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 9:59am

And I believe the death rate of this pandemic in the us...

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 10:02am

Excellent points. Just concerned about purposeful concealment of prices.

gingi

3/28/20 11:28am

Sure. Just ask for the private fee schedule.

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 11:47am

Those fees are higher because of the purposefully concealed prices. They are goo

gingi

3/28/20 3:03pm

It’s true though most will just keep hammering home “our healthcare is broken”

BYU '80

3/29/20 2:40am

Hospitals have a Monopoly. They are money making machines.

Recipefordisaster

3/28/20 10:23pm

They operate on thin margins. Ask anyone that knows healthcare finance

BYU '80

3/29/20 2:42am

Not for profit organizations always operate on thin margins, they have to give

Jacksonian76

3/29/20 8:22am

Well you did not ask about my experience in the field.

Recipefordisaster

3/29/20 5:48pm

The fines for not doing it are small. Most won’t

BYU '80

3/29/20 2:39am

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The Brig

3/28/20 10:03am

The equivalent of this is if lots of random buildings

KingDave

3/28/20 10:19am

Wow. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

StalwartBraveTrue

3/29/20 11:22am

He thinks you are being that guy.

Jacksonian76

3/29/20 12:24pm

Your post has nothing to do with the OP. But thanks

StalwartBraveTrue

3/29/20 3:48pm

What is the one or the other choice? It's a tight rope we are walking

Jacksonian76

3/29/20 9:42pm

These things have happened before and will again.

StalwartBraveTrue

3/29/20 10:08pm

I am glad that we both now agree that it is not a myth that the elderly

Jacksonian76

3/29/20 10:52pm

There was never a disagreement on who bears the risk.

StalwartBraveTrue

3/29/20 11:37pm

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