So you know the teachers were upset about this. ASD admin came up with this...

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Jan 26, 2022
3:34:10pm

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before consulting teachers.

The teachers pushed back saying this only made their workload worse not better

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Just found out my kids' school will be getting out an hour early every day

XORCoug

1/26/22 2:17pm

Would you want to deal with today's kids and parents? I don't blame teachers...

letthewookieewin

1/26/22 2:18pm

This is actually true. To give a couple of examples, I have two neighbors that

Chefcurry

1/26/22 2:21pm

Happens to me. I tell them to pound sand and make-up what they can with our

Adwight

1/26/22 2:24pm

Tell them no. Seems pretty simple

viper

1/26/22 2:43pm

but it feels so much better to tell them to "pound sand" instead of just "no"

Pangare

1/26/22 2:46pm

It IS simple - until admin gets involved and tells you to help them.

Eddie

1/26/22 2:50pm

would they though? Feels administrations are about policy, not making special

viper

1/26/22 4:20pm

To answer your question - yes. They really would.

Eddie

1/26/22 4:27pm

Per state law, a parent has the right to excuse a child's absence whenever

Don_Juan_El_Guapo

1/26/22 5:14pm

I will admit to super over-simplifying things.

Eddie

1/27/22 9:41am

My wife had a conversation with the parent of a child who was upset their...

Eddie

1/26/22 2:53pm

How many years have you taught?

the_byu_flash

1/26/22 2:18pm

Zero, but I didn't go into a profession I knew didn't pay very much

XORCoug

1/26/22 2:20pm

People like you is why I quit

the_byu_flash

1/26/22 2:24pm

Glad I could help.

XORCoug

1/26/22 2:27pm

They don't necessarily complain about the pay.

Hobo

1/26/22 2:26pm

Once again, this is the lamest retort. Teachers are leaving because of people

O Gaucho

1/26/22 2:58pm

Clayton Christensen's points about 2-factor theory clarify burnout reasons

RexburgCougar

1/26/22 4:18pm

They’ve gone back to the drawing board on it. Don’t worry too much till they get

Soupie

1/26/22 2:22pm

Teachers are the ones that wanted it from the beginning for the whole year

Adwight

1/26/22 2:27pm

Every teacher I know (and it's a lot) wishes we were just back to normal.

Ted Lasso

1/26/22 2:30pm

The school-as-day-care thing is a societal issue (and benefit).

Madam Pattirini

1/26/22 2:35pm

Imagine how hard it is to deal with your teenage children. Times that by 36

Adwight

1/26/22 2:22pm

My job's NEVER been frustrating, difficult, or complicated

XORCoug

1/26/22 2:26pm

I'm sure it has. But being dismissive of teachers and what they deal with does

Adwight

1/26/22 2:30pm

Updates user notes "Teachers should never complain for any reason, no matter how valid."

spugeddy24

1/26/22 2:30pm

You're assuming they're working less.

Eddie

1/26/22 2:32pm

I am not a teacher but I actually talk to my kids teachers...the problem right

BYUheaven

1/26/22 2:34pm

You're skipping the best part.

Eddie

1/26/22 2:28pm

And then after all that, says my sister, the principal tells her to pass the

md7Coug

1/26/22 2:34pm

No one allowed to fail since COVID started.

Eddie

1/26/22 2:44pm

Oh there’s plenty of failing going on. You just aren’t allowed to say it.

Soupie

1/26/22 2:46pm

While I agree on some of those things many are self inflicted based on the

kotacoug

1/26/22 2:33pm

Sounds like a nice break. I'd take that but not the pay. Maybe when I retire Ill take that .

Baron

1/26/22 3:04pm

On the other hand, Epic games stock must be shooting through the roof!

germm

1/26/22 2:23pm

Careful, you are not allowed to say anything bad about teachers...they are a protected class

JOPE

1/26/22 2:24pm

You have to be a covid police officer, worry about a dozen iads? forgot their

bald man

1/26/22 2:25pm

Unless you have been a teacher or are the spouse of a teacher in the past two

Phred84044

1/26/22 2:26pm

Giant eyeroll from me. As if other industries haven't been impacted by Covid. I can only imagine the horror

kimdaddy35

1/26/22 2:36pm

There's only about one industry that deals with 10 year old snot-nosed

Phred84044

1/26/22 2:59pm

The issue right now is teachers being sick and there not being enough subs to cover all the classes. At our high school

Busting Coveys

1/26/22 2:27pm

This is a valid concern as it is a valid concern across many industries. But I wouldn't classify it as teacher burnout

kimdaddy35

1/26/22 2:34pm

Yep! It's tough right now, where they have to work 5 days this week, vs previous

viper

1/26/22 2:48pm

Try teaching Spanish and being told you smell… you’d change your mind.

ProvoSoprano

1/26/22 2:28pm

Solid insider-CB joke.

Madam Pattirini

1/26/22 2:32pm

Isn't that what the entire summer off is for?

txblue

1/26/22 2:29pm

Man, the next thing is they’ll want 3 months off mid year for this

1984coug

1/26/22 2:36pm

And 3 weeks off at Christmas, another week off in spring and a full week off now in the fall.

kimdaddy35

1/26/22 2:38pm

Teachers deal with a lot, yep. But, we all do. We all have stress, issues,

Cougar TD

1/26/22 2:42pm

For real. Never try to improve things. Especially in public schools.

Ted Lasso

1/26/22 2:45pm

That is your response? Having teachers leave an hour early becuase of "burnout" is not trying to improve things

kimdaddy35

1/26/22 2:47pm

No teachers want that. Leaders cancelled it because of teacher response.

Ted Lasso

1/26/22 2:57pm

Yep, that is what I said. I am anti improving any public schools.. SMH

Cougar TD

1/26/22 3:06pm

Good. I would love for my kids to come home an hour earlier.

cougfanz

1/26/22 2:57pm

And...if you read the details the teachers don't get to leave an hour early,

Phred84044

1/26/22 3:07pm

You act like teachers are the only profession where they work more than 8hrs a

Cougar TD

1/26/22 3:19pm

So you know the teachers were upset about this. ASD admin came up with this...

BYU Grounds

1/26/22 3:34pm

ASD admin suggested keeping things the same...Sara Beeson got hammered after

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