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BYU Football branding, what do recruits think of BYU... it's not good
g$
4/6/22 4:34pm
Having coaches stay in touch has nothing to do with being fiscally responsible. Talking to the Gentry family on Andrew'
kimdaddy35
4/6/22 4:39pm
Unfortunately this isn’t the case with just football- most sports at Byu do this
1984coug
4/6/22 4:41pm
And yet I bet you would hear the opposite about Pope and the basketball staff.
kimdaddy35
4/6/22 4:43pm
Key word- most
1984coug
4/6/22 4:47pm
Oh I gave you a thumbs up as I agreed with your post. Pope does have a fraction of the recruits and yet you hear
kimdaddy35
4/6/22 4:49pm
I think I saw that part after 🙂
1984coug
4/6/22 4:56pm
We are doing it with Esera 🙂
Rat
4/6/22 4:59pm
This.
tcherrin
4/6/22 5:47pm
Wonder why he said what he said in the podcast then…not arguing just confused
ColonelMustard
4/6/22 10:43pm
Esera?
tcherrin
4/7/22 12:33am
Oh oops not him my bad
ColonelMustard
4/7/22 4:19pm
They do have more time than Kalani
deliciousmocha
4/6/22 6:52pm
Sounds like Kalani is getting a Chief of Staff. Could be huge in freeing up his time.
CrimWalCoug
4/6/22 8:58pm
Hot take, I think they rightfully prioritized other players over Gentry.
Jimmerfan32
4/7/22 11:32am
Hopefully Big 12 money will help improve the recruiting budget
LiveCoug
4/6/22 4:41pm
Non P5 until 2023 will do that.
Turnpike Lane
4/6/22 4:41pm
At BYU you should recruit every talented 4 star player you can get regardless of position. Not to mention this is not
kimdaddy35
4/6/22 4:44pm
a theme for defensive recruiting* in the Sitake era
ldssdl
4/6/22 5:53pm
LB may not be a need position, but you are in crazy town to overlook Lefau
g$
4/6/22 4:46pm
I really like his tape. He is going to be a good one wherever he goes.
kimdaddy35
4/6/22 4:47pm
He has a BYU flag on his bedroom wall, if BYU misses it goes down as an F in
g$
4/6/22 4:49pm
It sounds like we are trending in that direction unfortunately.
kimdaddy35
4/6/22 4:50pm
I recall hearing the same of another big-time player....
cajuncoug
4/6/22 6:35pm
This is frustrating…
MAcc15Coug
4/6/22 8:56pm
I’m sure he’s a stud and could be the best LB on the roster day 1 but
Reasonable1
4/6/22 4:49pm
hint, listen to the interview and Lefau tells you, you are way off on your guess
g$
4/6/22 4:56pm
RE: hint, listen to the interview and Lefau tells you, you are way off on your
Reasonable1
4/6/22 6:29pm
listen to the interview & you will believe, he has a BYU flag in his room & says
g$
4/6/22 6:42pm
Sounds like a stud, I hope we get him!
Reasonable1
4/6/22 6:48pm
I would love to see a distribution of responses for BYU. I wouldn't be surprised to see a bimodal distribution...
cougfanblue
4/6/22 4:44pm
Some logic behind this - we generally beat Utah in head-to-head recruiting battles...
cougfanblue
4/6/22 4:46pm
I don't know that we generally beat them
krindorr
4/6/22 5:18pm
Typically equal head to head when they were P5 and we were independent.
DrYfire
4/6/22 5:44pm
VERY GOOD POINT. EVERYONE SHOULD CONSIDER THIS A VALID REASON
ColonelMustard
4/6/22 10:47pm
Which says something about the job coaches have done. I’m not worried about it
Reasonable1
4/6/22 4:47pm
You are not worried about it? Funny as all I heard from coaches last year was we couldn't play defense the way
kimdaddy35
4/6/22 4:53pm
I’m only saying I’m skeptical that coaches would intentionally ignore him.
Reasonable1
4/6/22 7:12pm
Agree with the sentiment, I think that's overstating that websites value though. Eg: they have 3 reviews
molodyets
4/6/22 4:48pm
The N/A is because BYU is new to the P5 designation so there is no 4 yr average
g$
4/6/22 4:51pm
Interesting they didn't include Houston, Cincy, and UCF.
Conan
4/6/22 4:56pm
Very interesting.
AF_Puma
4/7/22 9:32am
My guess is they planned which teams to include prior to realignment
krindorr
4/7/22 10:49am
You're assuming each recruit only visits/reviews one school?
krindorr
4/6/22 8:44pm
I don’t get it. The chart posts a Brand rating and a recruiting rating.
Scott_Tenorman
4/6/22 4:50pm
brand rating is separate, if you read the article it says how the brand rating
g$
4/6/22 4:54pm
I see now. Schools with high scores from the survey get the best recruits
Scott_Tenorman
4/6/22 5:47pm
Let's be honest here... BYU didn't get into the BIG12 because we are some athletic powerhouse...
Coug
4/6/22 5:29pm
I worry we overstate that
krindorr
4/6/22 6:08pm
You're basing your numbers on church activity status... I think that's assuming a lot...
Coug
4/6/22 7:14pm
Hmm, point taken and good to know
krindorr
4/6/22 7:50pm
In Shreveport... I'll just say this, there was a beer line on the BYU side...
Coug
4/6/22 8:04pm
Wow that is disheartening particularly with a guy like Lefau.
CougaRR4L
4/6/22 4:52pm
I'll just add that this has been a problem with Kahuku and BYU.
CougaRR4L
4/6/22 5:12pm
I will only add that you are underselling Kahuku, it's easily a top 25 HS in the
g$
4/6/22 5:38pm
You are correct but I am bias and felt it would be
CougaRR4L
4/7/22 3:06pm
Kahuku hasn’t been fruitful for BYU in a very long time
deliciousmocha
4/6/22 6:56pm
Bronco poisoned the well with Schwenke, so that sort of proves CougaRR4L's point
g$
4/6/22 7:07pm
I’m having a difficult time understanding this post and others of a similar vein
Vegasjohn
4/6/22 9:11pm
I interviewed Reg and is teammate that both committed
deliciousmocha
4/6/22 11:09pm
You have several things mixed up, and some things correct
g$
4/7/22 10:59am
These comments touch closer to how my experience of
CougaRR4L
4/7/22 4:32pm
McMafu had poisoned the well against BYU & Chow long before that.
SinkingQuffa
4/7/22 3:17pm
RE: I'll just add that this has been a problem with Kahuku and BYU.
DrYfire
4/6/22 7:02pm
The staff isn't recruiting Liona, they won't make a push if they have to. If he
Rat
4/6/22 4:58pm
solid logic, after Pili went down, I barely noticed a difference last year
g$
4/6/22 5:08pm
Not surprising that the schools that scored highest on the brand score are all
NOCAL_YFAN
4/6/22 5:01pm
That isn't how they did the survey
g$
4/6/22 5:11pm
No, they did...
NOCAL_YFAN
4/6/22 5:16pm
Wish the story was different with Lefau, but the analysis and charts are bunk.
d-coug
4/6/22 5:07pm
I'd like to see that chart again in about 5-6 years
thewaterboy
4/6/22 5:15pm
Don't expect it to change... BYU is a church run school with an honor code.
TheLost
4/6/22 5:41pm
This is a good point. To 99% of the kids surveyed BYU might as well be on Mars.
ArcticKat
4/6/22 8:07pm
I wonder where UCF, Houston and Cincy would land on that chart
LiveCoug
4/6/22 5:23pm
Not sure I would want Tiaki talking to any defensive recruit anyways.
gp232
4/6/22 5:36pm
I have a lot of questions. First, were those who conducted the interviews
rockyrd
4/6/22 5:45pm
All I see are schools that have been P5 for several years and BYU who is not a
byusage
4/6/22 5:53pm
BYU is a unique school. We aren't going to be the #1 choice for most non-LDS
DrYfire
4/6/22 5:57pm
A couple things
cajuncoug
4/6/22 6:14pm
BYU isn't making LBer's a priority in the 2023 class
RockyBalboa
4/6/22 6:20pm
This smells fishy… BYUs football brand is worse than KU? Nope there is something
Pretorian
4/6/22 7:18pm
Author is the co-founder of Pick-6-Preview, which is the most in-depth
g$
4/6/22 7:26pm
I think I’m picking up what you’re putting down… and that does make sense
Pretorian
4/7/22 5:59am
Something that I think has been missed here is the details of the data sample
Marc Spector
4/6/22 7:29pm
"Brands are built in a decade, not a season."
Happy As Larry
4/6/22 7:34pm
I don't see Cincinatti, Houston or Central Florida.
VenomFarmer
4/6/22 10:03pm
Exactly! I can’t decide if this piece is a hit job or an honor.
notaboy
4/6/22 10:55pm
Bless MAFU.
SinkingQuffa
4/6/22 10:43pm
At first this looks awful, but after reading some responses there are holes in
ColonelMustard
4/6/22 10:56pm
I will just say that I am pretty skeptical of what the graph shows. There are many, many head scratchers on the list.
slatecoug
4/7/22 2:29am
“Are those BYU flags hanging in the background?”
(Private)
4/7/22 7:54am
Is that Illinois and UNC in the top 10 😂🤣😂🤣
Pretorian
4/7/22 9:01am
No, no it isn't
krindorr
4/7/22 9:55am
You’re right that’s Miami… UNC is 14… neither are impressive FB programs
Pretorian
4/7/22 11:31am
A few important (conference) takeaways that haven't yet been discussed
krindorr
4/7/22 10:40am
Maybe this coaching staff has bought into one of the conclusions of this study:
BYUDM93
4/7/22 11:27am
Score is based on a sample size of 3??? LOL. Somebody needs to take Stats 101.
AZ Coug
4/7/22 1:46pm
I'm curious where you're pulling the 3 from. It appears n=1000 to me.
BYUDM93
4/7/22 3:01pm
3 players who made visits to BYU
AZ Coug
4/7/22 3:04pm
That is not who was surveyed
BYUDM93
4/7/22 3:13pm
Hot take here
stoils
4/7/22 2:48pm
BYU needs to hire more recruiting and marketing staff
I'mBatman
4/7/22 3:33pm
The problem here is BYU was misidentified in the survey…. Should’ve been THE BYU
(Private)
4/7/22 5:11pm
BYU is Church owned and it frustrates me they get no financial support from it.
jpal1397
4/7/22 5:12pm
MMM, graph has issues. They claim to measure two different things, but both measures are likely tapping into
DrBYU
6/28/22 6:07pm
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