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Dec 1, 2016
12:15:04pm

Random Walk All-American

I agree--you don't know.

It's one reason that the CFP needs to change... We need more data to know who is the best (from multiple angles). Awarding conference championships could be one of the factors--but it shouldn't be seen as THE factor because we know that there's significant variation in quality across conferences.

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Random Walk

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So let me get this straight. Word is that Mich might even leapfrog Washington for CFP.

thaws Good Guy Idiot

12/1/16 11:37am

yep. if Oh state gets in, this has become the subjective NC moved from a vote

12/1/16 11:39am

I think that it is a step in right direction, but it should not stop here. 8 is perfect

thaws

12/1/16 11:43am

The subjectivity requires a wider net

Carnac el Magnifico

12/1/16 11:47am

It never really was a true playoff. It was a money and power grab....

ByuMba90

12/1/16 11:40am

It's a 4-team BCS system to replace the 2-team BCS system.

garyfan

12/1/16 11:41am

It needs to go to 8 teams. 4 is not enough. 8 is just right.

Turnpike Lane

12/1/16 11:42am

16 with ALL conferences getting an auto bid. Let the cinderellas go on the road

Colorado

12/1/16 11:50am

College Football NIT

kccougar

12/1/16 11:43am

I hope it happens because it will cause a lot of backlash

yorksama

12/1/16 11:43am

It would just be so easy to fix. 8 team playoff: P5 champs, 1 G5, 2 at large.

snowbird

12/1/16 11:43am

Only problem with that is OOC games become preseason games (they won't mean

rggee

12/1/16 11:48am

Except if you're a team hoping for the autobid.

Mizzou-Blue

12/1/16 12:09pm

As well they should.

chago04

12/1/16 11:46am

I love Michigan and wanted them to beat OSU so bad. But they did not win their conference.

thaws

12/1/16 11:52am

While I agree that it'd be subjective, I think that conferences championships

Random Walk

12/1/16 11:49am

It doesn't mean you're the best in the country, but it means you deserve a shot.

rggee

12/1/16 11:50am

Isn't the point of the CFP to get the four best teams in the country into a

Random Walk

12/1/16 11:52am

I suppose so. But 3 Big 10 teams seems silly.

rggee

12/1/16 11:53am

Not if they're 3 of the 4 best teams in the country.

Random Walk

12/1/16 11:55am

But they've already all played each other.

rggee

12/1/16 12:07pm

Why does this matter?

Random Walk

12/1/16 12:09pm

How do we know they're the best? They get the benefit of playing each other.

Mizzou-Blue

12/1/16 12:11pm

I agree--you don't know.

Random Walk

12/1/16 12:15pm

Ok, but how can anyone claim to be the best in the nation if they failed to win

NOCAL_YFAN

12/1/16 11:56am

Why does this matter? Some conferences are harder than others...just because

Random Walk

12/1/16 12:00pm

Yeah but then you are relying on non-head-to-head perception to say who is

NOCAL_YFAN

12/1/16 12:11pm

I'm not saying that conference championships shouldn't be a factor.

Random Walk

12/1/16 12:17pm

But if you view the regular season as part of the playoff, then those who fail

NOCAL_YFAN

12/1/16 12:24pm

I think that you're playing the regular season to decide who gets in the playoff

Random Walk

12/1/16 12:42pm

I don't. by your same logic reversed "If you cannot beat the teams in your region you cannot be the best in the

thaws

12/1/16 11:58am

The reverse logic doesn't work--because if you lose to the #1 team--you could

Random Walk

12/1/16 12:02pm

From it's short history, and this year in particular, is there any doubt left

NOCAL_YFAN

12/1/16 11:53am

there shouldn't have ever been any doubt. It wasn't designed for G5 inclusion

Nat Gas Man

12/1/16 12:00pm

good point. This is proof that it is not about allowing anyone in as much as keeping others out.

thaws

12/1/16 12:00pm

In a way, I kind of hope this happens. Then it would clearly reveal a bias

HangookCoug

12/1/16 11:53am

The playoff system isn't corrupt like everyone thinks. Would anyone dispute that

CougarBran

12/1/16 12:12pm

But it is as stupid as everyone thinks. You need to have a sufficient number

Colorado

12/1/16 12:35pm

Corrupt is not the word I would have used. Self Serving? Yes. Elitist? Yes.

thaws

12/1/16 4:02pm

And don't forget the CFP aint any different than the bowl system...

gmj81

12/1/16 12:30pm

The more things change, the more things stay the same. We've been having the

NOCAL_YFAN

12/1/16 12:33pm

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