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Oct 11, 2017
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thebruce
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The offense wasn't good last year either
Somehow Ty managed to put together a poor offense with an NFL QB and a NFL RB
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I find it funny that most Ty Detmer apologists want others to set aside logic
BlueForLife
10/11/17 8:36pm
Mike Leach
DirtyWater
10/11/17 8:38pm
What about him?
sgriff
10/11/17 8:39pm
EXACTLY! Broke the P12 passing record in his 2nd year.
BlueForLife
10/11/17 8:39pm
Went 9-4 last year
BYURider
10/11/17 8:39pm
1-5(6) and basically dead last in offense isn't enough for you?
sgriff
10/11/17 8:40pm
10-10 after this Saturday.
BlueForLife
10/11/17 8:40pm
Well finish season close to where we finished
BYURider
10/11/17 8:43pm
I doubt that. What makes you think that we are going to catch up to last year?
sgriff
10/11/17 8:46pm
And last year wasn't that great for the offense anyway.
sgriff
10/11/17 8:48pm
Schedule
BYURider
10/11/17 9:06pm
I can wait until the end of the year. I'd prefer a mid season adjustment, but
BlueForLife
10/11/17 8:40pm
I thought those were "bronco's recruits" though? Now that the team is
CB4
10/11/17 8:42pm
Crowton went 12-2 with Lavell's guys and then three straight losing seasons.
BlueForLife
10/11/17 8:46pm
The offense wasn't good last year either
thebruce
10/11/17 8:45pm
^This^
sgriff
10/11/17 8:47pm
It's like giving the defense credit for the 11-2 record in 2001
thebruce
10/11/17 8:50pm
^^^ this ^^^
nashty
10/11/17 8:48pm
Detmer apologists don't have a monopoly on anti-logic
BlueBlood
10/11/17 8:44pm
Exactly! It's not like Detmer is sticking to the same script hoping it'll work.
ManicBlue
10/11/17 9:41pm
and some are in his control. Lets be clear that no one is disputing that.
BlueBlood
10/11/17 9:44pm
What exactly would you do differently that he hasn't tried?
ManicBlue
10/11/17 10:13pm
Well, there are a few things, mostly guesses
BlueBlood
10/11/17 10:33pm
RE: Well, there are a few things, mostly guesses
ManicBlue
10/11/17 11:03pm
sure, but an experienced OC should be better at that kind of thing
BlueBlood
10/11/17 11:07pm
RE: sure, but an experienced OC should be better at that kind of thing
ManicBlue
10/11/17 11:51pm
The passing game probably looks great in practice against this defense.
cougaman
10/12/17 2:13am
Prediction - Ty will be OC in 2018
BYURider
10/11/17 8:45pm
My Prediction: if that happens Kalani will be Fired in December 2018.
Hawk Talons
10/11/17 8:52pm
So if BYU went 11-2, theyd fire Kalani? Really?
BYURider
10/11/17 10:17pm
Predictions wont be useless if the staff stays the same
MikeDitka'sStache
10/12/17 7:59am
Our losing in Royal uniforms far predates Ty and people still try to deny that.
BYUtka
10/11/17 8:47pm
I get your point, but explain the issues. What is wrong?
Turnpike Lane
10/11/17 8:47pm
What isn't wrong would have a shorter answer.
sgriff
10/11/17 8:49pm
You didn't answer the question.
Refugee
10/12/17 6:18am
Results
BlueForLife
10/11/17 8:53pm
Those are anecdotes. What is wrong?
Turnpike Lane
10/11/17 9:17pm
Lots of things that point back to Ty.
BlueForLife
10/11/17 9:24pm
they knew Ula was the best back. He was injured, he COULDN'T play, and still isn't in great game shape
BlueBlood
10/11/17 9:29pm
They said nothing all off-season about Ula being number 1 if he wasn't injured.
BlueForLife
10/12/17 7:50pm
I believe they said that Burt had an injury and was just cleared by Dr's last w/
SUAVO
10/11/17 9:43pm
Yep, and when we finally get the scheme right, then...
HalftimeAdjustment
10/11/17 8:50pm
Wait, aren't you the guy who said this?
PJMort
10/11/17 8:51pm
And this is relevant how?
Hawk Talons
10/11/17 8:54pm
<< Deleted >>
PJMort
10/11/17 8:56pm
Fine, but I fail to see how it relates to this topic
Hawk Talons
10/11/17 9:00pm
It's relevant because I'm in a bad mood. Sorry. ;(
PJMort
10/11/17 9:03pm
Yep! I would argue that Tanner, an elite 11 qb, and with proper coaching, is a
BlueForLife
10/11/17 9:02pm
I predict you are someone that doesn't pay a lot of attention to stats...true?
BlueForLife
10/11/17 9:09pm
First you label, then you predict. You must be great with the women.
PJMort
10/11/17 9:14pm
Show me results to argue your point. You like to make personal jabs. Fight back!
BlueForLife
10/11/17 9:16pm
RE: Show me results to argue your point. You like to make personal jabs. Fight
PJMort
10/11/17 9:55pm
As much as I hate the current record, I knew I'd have to be patient when they picked Ty.
DapperDan
10/11/17 8:52pm
Really? I don't remember many people saying we would have to be patient. Did
Hawk Talons
10/11/17 8:56pm
Many people were thinking it, but there were a lot of the "fire bronco" crowd
SUAVO
10/11/17 9:08pm
You should listen to what Drage said on Criddle's show this afternoon
BlueBlood
10/11/17 8:58pm
Ty is also the QB coach so poor QB play is on him too.
sgriff
10/11/17 9:02pm
Who should take the blame?
BlueForLife
10/11/17 9:07pm
Ty should. I thought we agreed on that.
sgriff
10/11/17 9:09pm
Sorry! I meant to respond to the guy you responded to.
BlueForLife
10/11/17 9:14pm
Detmer, Taysom, Heaps, Beck (early years), Anae, etc. BYU fans are never happy.
cougsrule
10/11/17 9:13pm
I was somewhat happy with Bronco even as a regular 8-5, 9-4 coach.
BlueForLife
10/11/17 9:17pm
Detmer critics don't know nearly as much as they seem to think
Mises
10/11/17 9:17pm
^ what this guy said
BlueBlood
10/11/17 9:21pm
I admit that I don't get to see practices each day, and the conversations, but
BlueForLife
10/11/17 9:27pm
when you are determined to blame one guy, you can find all the evidence you want
BlueBlood
10/11/17 9:30pm
The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
BlueForLife
10/11/17 10:28pm
Yeah, what an idiot for not playing Ula when he was injured, right? Totally missed on that eval.
BlueBlood
10/11/17 10:34pm
Not arguing to play Ula. And he was not listed as the best back until a few
BlueForLife
10/11/17 10:38pm
but
BlueBlood
10/11/17 10:41pm
They didn't list him as a starter because he wasn't going to start.
BlueBlood
10/11/17 10:45pm
If detmer didn't hire the position coaches, that is the fault of tom
idacoug
10/11/17 9:39pm
Sorry, this is KS's team and his problem.
coolblue
10/12/17 6:51am
People who disagree with you don't use logic?
Abe Froman
10/11/17 10:05pm
There is truth in this. Reality is this: the best OC we've had in past 10+ years
Coug Dude
10/11/17 10:26pm
Very true!
BlueForLife
10/11/17 10:43pm
That's why he's a D1 coach and you're on a message board
Borg
10/11/17 10:50pm
How is Sitake getting away scott free?
cougarmikey
10/12/17 2:28am
I do think Sitake is also to blame, but it is highly unlikely that Sitake would
BlueForLife
10/12/17 6:39am
Don't know what you consider an apologist but I prefer patience to reaction. I'm
ImuaKahuku
10/12/17 5:20am
K, Nice move on the apology for Ty and Kalani. That was funny!
BlueForLife
10/12/17 6:53am
Go read this article, if you haven't already. My perception is that Ty is not
BlueForLife
10/12/17 7:02am
Problem is he shouldn't be trying to "figure" it out. Additionally the problem
ImuaKahuku
10/12/17 10:50am
I feel that 19 games is enough of a gauge for us to know if Ty has potential or
BlueForLife
10/12/17 4:21pm
I'm not really a Detmer apologist but I think it's dumb to draw conclusions based on a superficial analysis of things
buffgato
10/12/17 7:21am
Whats superficial about the stats I have added throughout this chat? Results
BlueForLife
10/12/17 4:22pm
I'm saying you need two things - results may be a start, but you have to know why
buffgato
10/12/17 6:16pm
Not sure you read this post I added above:
BlueForLife
10/12/17 7:44pm
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