And now weigh those against the games in December...

Aug 20, 2018
1:40:48pm

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And which one is remembered the most? Jim McMahon's Hail Mary win is probably remembered more than any game we ever played in September save the Miami game.

The win against K-State in the Cotton bowl... bigger than the A&M game, UCLA, Washington.

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This is why an independent schedule is better than a MWC schedule.

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 1:10pm

But what about my personal issues with self loathing as it relates to my inferiority complex compared to Utah?

mulletino

8/20/18 1:16pm

Wins against good opponents should fix that. Losses in independence mean you are

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 1:19pm

Sure, but real competitors cannot compete if they aren't able to stare at a conference standings race.

mulletino

8/20/18 1:20pm

"If we can just beat Wyoming this week and San Jose State next week, we can

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 1:25pm

Wins against MWC teams are nicer than losses to MWC teams. That is true.

Pete Way

8/20/18 4:44pm

Couldn’t decide between thumbs up, smiley, or POTD.

BigEasyCougar

8/20/18 2:47pm

What games in September, in Lavell's era, was remembered the most?

Coug

8/20/18 1:33pm

Different times. Nobody cares about bowl games now.

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 1:38pm

Yes... it's different times, where getting to and winning your conference championship game...

Coug

8/20/18 1:42pm

I don't want to be a legendary MWC team. No thanks. We already have that.

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 1:46pm

I don't either... but I don't want to be Tom Hanks on a desseted island talking to a volleyball...

Coug

8/20/18 2:12pm

So, you'd rather be on an island with a bunch of chimps pretending to be people?

Pete Way

8/20/18 4:47pm

Have you seen the female chimp? I'm just saying

Coug

8/20/18 7:41pm

Well I guess it IS true that these are dark, confusing times in which we live...

Pete Way

8/20/18 8:34pm

Those times were much more fun than current times

shakarocks

8/20/18 3:24pm

Washington, Texas A&M, UCLA, Miami...should I keep going?

macdizzle

8/20/18 1:38pm

And now weigh those against the games in December...

Coug

8/20/18 1:40pm

Those are bowl games...

macdizzle

8/20/18 2:10pm

Exactly... they mean more than the regular season garbage games.

Coug

8/20/18 2:26pm

Now, that is Week 1,2,3,4...in the past we play maybe 1-2 a year, big difference

kolob32

8/20/18 2:03pm

From January to August, an independent schedule is better.

Blue Cat

8/20/18 1:41pm

Uggh, such a loser attitude.

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 1:53pm

Independent have just been more top-heavy- 3/4 good teams the rest bad.

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 1:58pm

Name the last quality P5 road win for BYU.

Blue Cat

8/20/18 2:02pm

Why are you putting so many qualifiers on our P5 wins? Best to look at all

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 2:17pm

We play more P5 road games than home. Significantly more P5 road than neutral.

Blue Cat

8/20/18 2:29pm

At the end of the day, he will still view a win over a 4-8 Nebraska team....

Coug

8/20/18 2:39pm

You are describing everyone in the country. Beating names matter. People

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 3:13pm

And nobody remembers our wins over the teams we mentioned...

Coug

8/20/18 3:19pm

We can agree to disagree. You just prioritize more wins over quality wins. I

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 3:27pm

Nobody has made Independence work but 1 team...

Coug

8/20/18 3:36pm

Looks like I didn't persuade you. To each their own.

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 3:41pm

Road wins are not the only important wins. Here's some data for you.

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 3:00pm

Since you won't answer my question. Here's some data for you.

Blue Cat

8/20/18 4:04pm

I already told you that your request for that stat was meaningless. Just looking

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 4:10pm

And I explained to you why it mattered.

Blue Cat

8/20/18 4:39pm

This is an "attitude" based on 45 years of data. Data which consistently show

Indy Coug

8/20/18 2:05pm

How do you define struggled?

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 2:10pm

Winning 40% of your games against P5s = "struggled". Your linked post is only listing home games

Indy Coug

8/20/18 2:14pm

RE: This is why an independent schedule is better than a MWC schedule.

BYUDelta71

8/20/18 1:44pm

True. I don't think our current scheduling is where we should be given our

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 1:55pm

Dialing back our schedule? That's what I said! What a loser attitude.

Blue Cat

8/20/18 2:06pm

"A little," especially when considering next year. You want to play pansies and

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 2:12pm

Since when has a G5 schedule with 2-3 P5s mixed in been easy for our program?

Blue Cat

8/20/18 2:19pm

Yep, I understand it. And Holmoe understands it. And I would imagine he would be

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 2:29pm

It's getting really boring having nothing to play for mid-Sept-Dec.

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 1:54pm

Recency bias. We have shown we can beat decent P5 teams. Last year is more

Coach's Dad

8/20/18 1:57pm

Nah, I haven't watched the last few games of each independent year in a while

Iki_Balam

8/20/18 2:31pm

You really missing fighting for the MWC?

kotacoug

8/20/18 2:10pm

I miss fighting it out with two or three other programs who were equally

Iki_Balam

8/20/18 2:27pm

It's all relative. People only started hating the MW when Utah went PAC-12.

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 3:07pm

No, we started hating the MWC when they started screwing over BYU

BYUMizzou

8/20/18 3:11pm

Games may have been fuzzy, but no doubt the seasons were exciting.

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 3:17pm

You can only offer your personal opinion. My opinion is different. I find it

BYUMizzou

8/20/18 4:08pm

If overall record and nationally ranked are most important to you than we had

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 4:19pm

Some of us don't suffer from sports-related

BYUMizzou

8/20/18 5:38pm

not sure how that devolved into prescribing pills for a mythical condition.

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 5:51pm

That's an ironic response, since you obviously arent interested in trying

BYUMizzou

8/20/18 8:32pm

Facts vs. Ad hominem and I'm the one who doesn't want to understand your points?

Mr. Scoobs

8/21/18 9:53am

Your personal opinions are not facts. Get real. Have some self awareness

BYUMizzou

8/21/18 11:47am

How are SOS ratings, win totals, and top-25 finishes not facts?

Mr. Scoobs

8/21/18 12:02pm

You said:

BYUMizzou

8/21/18 1:21pm

Cherry picking comments and concluding everything is 100% opinion is strange.

Mr. Scoobs

8/21/18 2:23pm

Other than, like, playing to win the games? Or do you just not like football?

Pete Way

8/20/18 4:29pm

I can't find any rational, non-emotional reason that MWC is better than Indy.

Pete Way

8/20/18 4:25pm

BYU was way more relevent nationally in the MWC.

Mr. Scoobs

8/20/18 4:30pm

Maybe. Maybe not. It still doesn't make me care about the MWC or give value to

Pete Way

8/20/18 4:39pm

Amigo, you have to remember that when we were there, so were TCU and Utah

Iki_Balam

8/21/18 12:45pm

Now, in 2018 (and since TCU & Utah left), there is no reason

Iki_Balam

8/21/18 12:30pm

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