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Apr 19, 2019
4:49:52pm

ElmerAlbert Redshirt Freshman

not tied to racist on Wikipedia, rather tied to Greek idiom

Call a spade a spade

To "call a spade a spade" is a figurative expression. It is also referred to as "let's call a spade a spade, not a gardening tool" which refers to calling something "as it is", that is, by its right or proper name, without "beating about the bush"—being outspoken about it, truthfully, frankly, and directly, even to the point of being blunt or rude, and even if the subject is considered coarse, impolite, or unpleasant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_a_spade_a_spade

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Let's call a spade a spade if Williams doesn't get admitted

RockyBalboa

4/19/19 12:01pm

What is a double minority?

Pimpin4Paradise

4/19/19 12:03pm

Race & religion minority.

soupie

4/19/19 12:03pm

But Mormonism is a minority religion

Punk Philosopher

4/19/19 3:57pm

Nice attempt at deflection...OP premise is spot on

CLCougar

4/19/19 4:05pm

It was a joke.

Punk Philosopher

4/19/19 4:08pm

Maybe I've read too many of other posts

CLCougar

4/19/19 4:10pm

of my other posts?

Punk Philosopher

4/19/19 4:11pm

But no less true

Pretorian

4/19/19 7:04pm

Right?

Punk Philosopher

4/19/19 7:07pm

He was recruited (and admitted) by an SEC school and enjoys strawberry Poptarts

RyneK

4/19/19 12:04pm

I agree that it will reflect poorly...

Punk Philosopher

4/19/19 4:17pm

No one will even care outside of CB.

4/19/19 12:03pm

Future recruiting targets - esp grad transfer ones - might.

unctoothman

4/19/19 12:05pm

Coaches BYU is recruiting against will make sure they know about it.

Eddie

4/19/19 12:05pm

Yup. Perception matters. The church, but not all of the BYU admin, gets that.

unctoothman

4/19/19 12:07pm

Some in church sometimes get it

bruincoug

4/19/19 12:08pm

I had a former director of PR for the LDS Church as a teacher. I wouldn't say

Punk Philosopher

4/19/19 4:11pm

I'm shook. If future grad transfers can't hack it as a BYU grad student, I'm

4/19/19 12:08pm

*shaken

foofcoug

4/19/19 12:10pm

All the kids are saying it.

4/19/19 12:11pm

RE: All the kids are saying it.

4/19/19 12:13pm

Grad admissions standards don't equate to "can/Can't hack it".

unctoothman

4/19/19 12:13pm

It's not everything, but it's certainly a part of it.

4/19/19 12:17pm

This is absolutely not true at all...

Coug

4/19/19 12:10pm

When's the last time a recruit that didn't get admitted to BYU made the non-

4/19/19 12:11pm

This is probably the most high profile athlete grad transfer BYU's ever had...

Coug

4/19/19 12:16pm

Can you point me to any non-sports source that is reporting on Ty'Son's

4/19/19 12:19pm

Go ahead BYU... try it... I dare you

Coug

4/19/19 12:23pm

Haha. Is that you, Dallin?

4/19/19 12:24pm

That's probably a stretch.

Eddie

4/19/19 12:15pm

This is a pretty high profile grad transfer...

Coug

4/19/19 12:18pm

I don't disagree with that. I disagree with the idea they'll never get another.

Eddie

4/19/19 12:37pm

Ok... that's fair... so let me rephrase it...

Coug

4/19/19 12:54pm

That I can agree with.

Eddie

4/19/19 2:39pm

Haha you keep telling yourself that.

ReggaeCoug

4/19/19 12:42pm

I invite you to listen to sports radio after the news comes out. Have fun.

Bluedarts

4/19/19 12:46pm

Again. We're talking about CB and rabid sports fans in Utah. Outside of that

4/19/19 12:49pm

Ahh, I should have known your dramatic response was even more dramatic.

Bluedarts

4/19/19 12:55pm

I think you are being naive about who will and won't care about it...

Coug

4/19/19 12:59pm

He doesn't want to hear that. He's convinced he's 100% right

ReggaeCoug

4/19/19 2:14pm

Yes they do. I traveled a lot for business. Tons of people follow every aspect

4/19/19 2:17pm

They follow the minutae of BYU recruiting, too?

4/19/19 5:22pm

Ignore my comments.

4/20/19 1:39pm

Your posts are making you sound like one of the academic admins

Resurgens

4/19/19 1:28pm

RE: Let's call a spade a spade if Williams doesn't get admitted

Coop

4/19/19 12:04pm

RE: Let's call a spade a spade if Williams doesn't get admitted

The Chelsea Dagger

4/19/19 3:47pm

If he doesn't get in, then I think they really need to stop recruiting grad

Bluedarts

4/19/19 12:45pm

You are correct.

SoCalCoug

4/19/19 1:08pm

A spade is a derogatory term used for people of African descent.

rockyrd

4/19/19 2:21pm

TIC?

Boanerges

4/19/19 2:26pm

Ok. I've never heard this before.

Wingnut

4/19/19 2:26pm

It is also used in a common phrase as properly used in the OP

LV Mike

4/19/19 2:27pm

Let’s not try to fabricate racial outrage when there is nothing racist intended

pegushin

4/19/19 2:37pm

Spot on! Oh, never mind, I thought you were referring to the OP.

4/20/19 12:55am

It’s definitely a racial slur, at least in the Midwestern cities I’ve lived in

The Chelsea Dagger

4/19/19 3:41pm

Interesting - I don't think in this phrase however

Boanerges

4/19/19 3:47pm

Heard that phrase a lot in Utah but never once I moved away

The Chelsea Dagger

4/19/19 3:52pm

I lived in the Midwest and never heard it used in a racial way

pegushin

4/19/19 4:12pm

RE: Let's call a spade a spade if Williams doesn't get admitted

PBR

4/19/19 3:50pm

If he doesn’t get admitted it’ll have nothing to do with his race. Stop playing

4/19/19 3:59pm

How do you know it will have nothing to do with it?

D.T. Survivor

4/19/19 4:06pm

BYU has accepted black grad transfers before

puntersarepeople

4/19/19 4:14pm

I guess you’re free to think whatever you’d like

4/19/19 4:48pm

People play the race card all the time and I hate it

puntersarepeople

4/19/19 4:14pm

Race influences sooo much in ones life

D.T. Survivor

4/19/19 4:33pm

It can

puntersarepeople

4/19/19 4:39pm

Hopefully he is in and this is much ado about nothing

D.T. Survivor

4/19/19 7:18pm

Stop

pegushin

4/19/19 4:54pm

not tied to racist on Wikipedia, rather tied to Greek idiom

ElmerAlbert

4/19/19 4:49pm

but, NPR gives the history of how the term and usage changed

ElmerAlbert

4/19/19 4:57pm

Even NPR said basically

Boanerges

4/19/19 7:17pm

Let's not be niggardly in sharing this suggestion.

spoxjox

4/19/19 7:19pm

Your spin looks poorly on BYU...if he qualifies he qualifies....has nothing to

coot20

4/19/19 6:30pm

All this hand wringing about Ty’son makes

FanofBYU

4/19/19 6:48pm

This^^^. So ridiculous.

soupie

4/19/19 7:01pm

It’s all because of Gurney

puntersarepeople

4/19/19 7:25pm

What a stupid rumor. Since he committed, let's just expect him to enroll.

qom

4/19/19 7:44pm

I disagree. We do not know what is on his academic record. If this was

Thrill

4/20/19 2:42pm

Precisely. It’s based on merit not race

puntersarepeople

4/20/19 6:19pm

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