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Jul 1, 2019
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Big Daddy D
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Exceptional muscle loss. Has to be from “supplements” change, at least in part.
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Looks like Gronk was on the u of u fitness program while playing.
SoValleyCOUG
7/1/19 9:24am
Whats so funny about those twitter pics is how skinny he is yet he has freakishly large hands.
Hank Rearden
7/1/19 9:27am
Weird to put this in Rivalry Smack.
displacedute
7/1/19 9:28am
They don’t really have an argument for anything else?
CrimsonCardinal
7/1/19 3:30pm
They just wanted to see the two of you respond.
WJCougar
7/1/19 3:37pm
An observation of many retired ute players over the years.
SoValleyCOUG
7/1/19 5:58pm
I know this is the pot calling the kettle black,
displacedute
7/1/19 6:31pm
RE: I know this is the pot calling the kettle black,
WJCougar
7/1/19 7:03pm
It's how quickly they lose it Gronk just retired a few months ago.
SoValleyCOUG
7/1/19 8:48pm
Weird to bring Alex Guerrero into this.
tony
7/1/19 8:53pm
Seems like that his weight loss was a bit too fast. Was he roided up like crazy
mudpupper
7/1/19 9:31am
Apparently it takes a lot of work for BIG football players to keep the weight on
displacedute
7/1/19 9:35am
A friend of mine from HS played OL in the NFL
scottpete
7/1/19 9:37am
True, but that is some fast muscle loss.
mudpupper
7/1/19 9:47am
Exceptional muscle loss. Has to be from “supplements” change, at least in part.
Big Daddy D
7/1/19 9:56am
Good post, plus it's pretty much impossible to lose weight without losing muscle
deljdc
7/1/19 2:00pm
I’ve known a few guys that have played in college and one in the NFL.
specsauce
7/1/19 9:40am
Mike Empey is a good example of this...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 10:23am
Some of you need to educate yourself...
jackryanslc
7/1/19 10:30am
Almost everyone at the DI level and above is taking something
reddead
7/1/19 11:46am
What do you mean by "taking something"?
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 11:50am
Steroids/test boosters, etc. Obviously not referring to nutrition
reddead
7/1/19 3:23pm
So your vague “friends” that you happen to know...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 3:45pm
As a relative, you're probably one of the last people that would know
reddead
7/1/19 4:17pm
My son is as vague as your “friends” 😂
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 4:27pm
Then he’s one of the few
reddead
7/1/19 4:29pm
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jackryanslc
7/1/19 12:29pm
My son is a D1 football player as well...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 12:37pm
My friend (D1 player) was a known Mormon on the team. The team made sure
rcbyufan
7/1/19 12:53pm
Doubt it...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 1:01pm
Heard about this happening, too. "Random" tests that aren't random
reddead
7/1/19 3:40pm
Orals, HCG, and soms are all pretty common
reddead
7/1/19 3:39pm
So you have actual evidence of this?
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 3:48pm
Why do you put "friends" in quotations?
reddead
7/1/19 4:14pm
You claimed “almost everyone” when that is something you’d have no way to know..
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 4:38pm
Um, yeah... I'm gonna go ahead and agree with CoachSpeak on this one.
whitey1980
7/1/19 5:04pm
I definitely wouldn’t expect you to agree with me “always” 😁
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 5:32pm
There are good Utes! 🙂
whitey1980
7/1/19 6:04pm
I find it interesting that everyone is so shocked when a player gain a bunch
deljdc
7/1/19 2:06pm
Not just BYU; it's UofU, USU and SMU that I know of/have second-hand knowledge
reddead
7/1/19 4:08pm
C'mon don't make rash generalizations.
Cougstreak
7/2/19 4:28am
Yeah I'm sure all those guys are 100% natural.
SoValleyCOUG
7/1/19 12:39pm
No one believes that...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 12:44pm
I'm sure there are a fair share of Tony Madarich guys out there who hide it.
SoValleyCOUG
7/1/19 4:30pm
I’m sure there are as well...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 4:32pm
Well I never wrote "most" or "almost everyone" so I can't say.
SoValleyCOUG
7/1/19 6:01pm
That’s true, you didn’t...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 6:11pm
My sarcasm was aimed at a comment that made it sound like everyone is clean.
SoValleyCOUG
7/1/19 7:44pm
Testing isn’t nearly that frequent or effective
reddead
7/1/19 4:35pm
And how do you know this?
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 4:43pm
You’re straw manning me. I’m not saying every player. Just many
reddead
7/1/19 5:08pm
No, you literally said “almost everyone at the D1 level is taking something”...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 5:28pm
to me that was fairly obvious hyperbole and just a colloquial manner of speaking
SCKIN
7/1/19 6:43pm
It is certainly hyperbole...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 6:49pm
This is EXCELLENT detective work. We cannot simply believe links posted by any
SCKIN
7/1/19 6:54pm
Oh I didn’t say it can’t be believed...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 7:08pm
what an intelligent, reasonable, and substantive take .......
SCKIN
7/1/19 7:28pm
Here's a 4-year old bleacher report article
reddead
7/2/19 3:13pm
no, no, no, no, things have changed DRASTICALLY in the last four years
SCKIN
7/2/19 3:48pm
That’s an article about the nfl genius 😂
CoachSpeak
7/2/19 4:36pm
You're right; testing in the NFL is more regular and more stringent than college
reddead
7/2/19 6:15pm
I'd assume that the NFL is very different than college. NFL players have a union, (NFLPA) which represents their
whitey1980
7/2/19 4:38pm
They know that....
CoachSpeak
7/2/19 4:42pm
NCAA players get tested less frequently than NFL players, not more
reddead
7/2/19 6:19pm
Don't tell me I'm wrong. Prove it. Show me an article. Post a link. Provide evidence.
whitey1980
7/2/19 8:07pm
Link here:
reddead
7/2/19 8:28pm
So you post an article about pro players...
CoachSpeak
7/2/19 4:35pm
Pointing out that juicing is rampant in the sport and tests aren't hard to beat
reddead
7/2/19 6:20pm
I don't find your anecdotal evidence any more compelling than reddead's
SCKIN
7/1/19 6:36pm
So a link to an almost decade old article...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 6:46pm
that's what I find interesting about your whole schtick ... you're both alleging
SCKIN
7/1/19 6:52pm
7 year old “empirical evidence” might not be so “empirical” any longer...
CoachSpeak
7/1/19 6:59pm
yes, very interesting, you should get a job with NCIS
SCKIN
7/1/19 7:27pm
Reddead, who doodoo’d in your
coastcat
7/1/19 4:50pm
It takes a lot of patience for some guys weighting to gain all that wait
TEXAS
7/1/19 7:47pm
"patients"
SCKIN
7/2/19 12:24am
Low-key Ken M comment right here 🙂
reddead
7/2/19 3:14pm
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