He's just referring to the idea shown in this graph.

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Sep 22, 2019
2:57:56pm

kooogar Contributor

He's just referring to the idea shown in this graph.

Chart: Which NCAA Football Teams Outplay Their Recruit Rankings?

When college football teams fail to meet expectations, fans tend to turn to an old stand-by: Our coach is an all right recruiter, but he just can't coach. This is the narrative behind, for example, Will Muschamp's downturn at Florida. On the other hand, coaches who significantly exceed expectations are perceived as solid coaches despite meager recruiting skills. (This the case for Bill Snyder.) But these coaches are outliers. How does the rest of college football fare in translating expected talent to actual success?

https://deadspin.com/chart-which-ncaa-football-teams-outplay-their-recruit-1640831522[https://deadspin.com/chart-which-ncaa-football-teams-outplay-their-recruit-1640831522/+benes?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow]

Mid level talent, top 40 average finish. If you can't recruit you need to know how to coach.

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kooogar

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I had a feeling things were not going to go well based on the pre-game show on KSL

Cougs1 All-American

9/22/19 11:54am

I could have told you the result as soon as they revealed Royal on the Uniforms.

BYUtka

9/22/19 11:57am

Your statement is idiotic.

BleedCougarBlue2

9/22/19 12:54pm

Careful, I got a stern warning yesterday for say that a comment was stupid.

Benfica1

9/22/19 1:52pm

Sorry you refuse to accept facts. BTW the Earth is Round.

BYUtka

9/22/19 4:14pm

“Facts”? So it is “fact” that if we wear a certain color uniform we “will”...

BleedCougarBlue2

9/22/19 7:50pm

Fact: we only win 26% of our games in Royal.

BYUtka

9/22/19 8:06pm

I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that we often wear Royal when

GenkiLawyer

9/23/19 10:04pm

The data accounts for that. Even with that our win percentage is much lower.

BYUtka

9/24/19 7:32am

Probably knew the team was beat up and exhausted

Pony Zale

9/22/19 11:57am

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HalftimeAdjustment

9/22/19 11:58am

Yep. Broncos hard line, no nonsense personality was awesome against Utah in 2011

Backcountry

9/22/19 12:03pm

You can have fun and still perform well. It’s more about accountability.

idcougarfan

9/22/19 12:06pm

So an average 33 finish for over a decade is exactly the same as a 70 average?

Mr. Scoobs

9/22/19 12:13pm

Some people are actually convinced that we've been better the last few years

Dynasty1

9/22/19 12:22pm

It’s insane how quickly the bar of expectation has been lowered.

Mr. Scoobs

9/22/19 12:52pm

That precedent was set by Bronco. His bar used to be 10+ wins, top 25 finish and a bowl win. Then when he realized he..

icecougar

9/22/19 3:22pm

You realize LaVell who is a Hall of Fame coach, and won a national championship

Mr. Scoobs

9/22/19 3:46pm

Again you mistakenly think football doesn’t change ever. When Lavell started taking BYU to bowl games there were only..

icecougar

9/22/19 11:13pm

Here’s a quote from Bronco in 2014 where he lowers his bar from 10+ wins, top 25 finish and a bowl win down to...

icecougar

9/22/19 11:30pm

Meh. That team was undefeated early, in the top 25 with the best odds to go

Mr. Scoobs

9/23/19 7:19am

Except that year our offense wasn’t the problem. We avg’d 37 pts a game, Anae’s best year as OC at BYU...

icecougar

9/24/19 12:58pm

I agree that expectations are now lower than they were with Bronco.

Mr. Scoobs

9/24/19 1:21pm

Uh yeah. Nobody expects a massive rebuild to happen over night. At BYU it takes 2 yrs longer than it does anywhere...

icecougar

9/26/19 1:30am

A massive rebuild is going to be needed just to get back to where we were, let

Mr. Scoobs

10/13/19 8:36am

What’s crazy is that Sitake needs to win eight games this season to surpass

ataylor

9/22/19 1:15pm

Don’t forget post-Kaepernick Nevada @ home

KG123

9/22/19 2:35pm

Here's a recent example to back up the point about work.

kooogar

9/22/19 2:41pm

Bronco has had good wins and bad losses, just like Kalani. That's my point.

Backcountry

9/22/19 2:55pm

They have similar good wins but the new staff

kooogar

9/22/19 3:02pm

Try looking at winning % before making stupid statements

cougXor

9/22/19 7:08pm

“Fun, fun, fun.” Yep, NOT gonna work for less athletic players.

BleedCougarBlue2

9/22/19 12:54pm

what if they had the same kind of week before the USC game?

BYURider

9/22/19 1:23pm

I was right with you until the last line about Bronco. Give it a rest already.

Kerbouchard

9/22/19 2:36pm

He's just referring to the idea shown in this graph.

kooogar

9/22/19 2:57pm

Discipline definitely dropped when Whit went recruiting on a bye week and left

ALUF 1990

9/22/19 4:06pm

This is the thing that drives me crazy about Kalani. I too never heard

BYUJoJo

9/22/19 5:03pm

I think all the penalties, dropped balls and other miscues

bluegato

9/22/19 6:19pm

Football is still fifth, but nobody is willing to say it anymore.

Ash

9/22/19 7:12pm

Winning is fun. Not sure the program gets that.

byujdmba

9/22/19 9:57pm

Bronco would have lost to Washington too

bigjohn

9/22/19 10:04pm

Probably true about Washington

Dynasty1

9/22/19 10:10pm

The momentum in the rivalry with USU shifted under Bronco. He lost twice....

icecougar

9/24/19 1:11pm

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