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Nov 18, 2019
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molodyets
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Our recruiting rankings are lower, yet that underclassment talent is outplaying
the higher rated players.
Top to bottom there are more P5 offers on the team, despite the dip in ratings. Overall athleticism has improved.
But look at a surface level and see what you want.
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This will not be a popular opinion on this board, but taking a 50,000 foot
kimdaddy35
11/18/19 12:10pm
It might be a great time to jump ship
Indy Coug
11/18/19 12:11pm
KimDaddy is complaining about KS? Unheard of.
Benfica1
11/18/19 6:00pm
Just stop!
Blue2thebone
11/18/19 6:55pm
Stop what? The idea of supporting who the current coach is?
ReggaeCoug
11/18/19 8:24pm
please just stop!
Blue2thebone
11/19/19 12:54am
You're encouraging him to leave the island? Come on, man....
BleedCougarBlue2
11/18/19 7:30pm
Gary Crowton's record wasn't the #1 reason he got fired
CommodoreCoug
11/18/19 12:11pm
It's because off the field stuff had spiraled out of control
Indy Coug
11/18/19 12:12pm
Yep...
Refugee
11/18/19 12:16pm
The Crowton effect is still felt across multiple sports
stonecougar
11/18/19 1:12pm
What is the Crowton effect?
CougarTailDevourer
11/18/19 7:33pm
just STOP already
Blue2thebone
11/19/19 12:54am
Oh, please stop just please.
Benfica1
11/19/19 8:05am
Yes it was.
Lip Gallagher
11/18/19 4:45pm
No, it wasn’t.
Indy Coug
11/18/19 6:20pm
Yes it was. He was gone no matter what else happened.
Lip Gallagher
11/18/19 6:36pm
No he wasn’t.
Indy Coug
11/18/19 8:32pm
Yes he was. Want to keep going?
Lip Gallagher
11/18/19 8:51pm
Apparently you think Pres Samuelson is a liar. Good for you.
Indy Coug
11/18/19 9:00pm
No it wasn’t. I’ve been told by two separate GA’s that were involved.
Cougar Jazz Fan
11/18/19 7:20pm
Admin already put pressure on before that season and then he went
Lip Gallagher
11/18/19 7:55pm
So Lip ignores people who have info from the horse’s mouth
Indy Coug
11/18/19 8:33pm
Wahhhh, if he goes 8-5 or 9-4 same as bronco 4/5 years as Indy
franklyvulgar
11/18/19 12:13pm
The problem with that is that Holmoe called 8-5
pspack41
11/18/19 7:17pm
You are right.
kccougar
11/18/19 12:13pm
Because no dissenting opinions can exist in a massive fan base
vegas guey
11/18/19 12:40pm
No, because he sounds miserable. If his post is the way he really feels, he should go find a new team to cheer for
kccougar
11/18/19 12:43pm
And many on here wonder why Aggies and Utes think of BYU fans
kimdaddy35
11/18/19 12:43pm
You were the one making the argument to find another team. I just agreed with you.
kccougar
11/18/19 12:45pm
Agree 💯
kahuna
11/18/19 1:43pm
Joining the countless number of former Cougar Fans who have de-prioritized
kimdaddy35
11/18/19 12:41pm
For your fiery original post, you sure seem sensitive
D.T. Survivor
11/18/19 5:06pm
Well you said it yourself, "this may not be a popular opinion" so why are you
Johnny Vatos
11/18/19 5:39pm
Lame. Seriously. Does every disagreement have to go the ultimate extreme?
777
11/18/19 1:00pm
Kimdaddy is the one suggesting he will stop supporting BYU.
JuicyJam
11/18/19 1:01pm
Maybe so, I missed that part, but this isn't the first time I've seen this
777
11/18/19 1:03pm
Maybe you should have read the OP in it's entirety.
SaintGeorgeYFan
11/18/19 6:34pm
Yes
Garn
11/18/19 7:15pm
Are you new to the internet? That’s kind of how CB works.
CrimsonCardinal
11/18/19 8:48pm
I think many agree with some of your points, but it is now a done deal. Time to support the players and program.
Turnpike Lane
11/18/19 12:15pm
Ya- just like crowton, he is not HC material
claw
11/18/19 12:15pm
We could go from 6-4 to 9-4 or 8-5 with a lot of young guys playing
puntersarepeople
11/18/19 12:16pm
Problem is that BYU always has a lot of young guys playing for some reason
BYU '80
11/18/19 6:05pm
We were older in 2015 and 2016
puntersarepeople
11/18/19 8:50pm
Go give your resources to utah, they're full of disgruntled byu hating people.
CougarBuddy
11/18/19 12:16pm
Hard pass. We have too many negative ignorant know nothing about
DocPimp
11/18/19 12:18pm
Yeah, way too many yewts who can't form a proper sentence
vegas guey
11/18/19 12:42pm
Always a great day when you can incite English Language smack.
DocPimp
11/18/19 1:11pm
*cite
SierraCoug
11/18/19 1:39pm
INcite. As in ‘incite’ the grammar neeerrrrdddssss.
DocPimp
11/18/19 4:04pm
Well, aren't you special.
SierraCoug
11/18/19 5:16pm
I think so.
DocPimp
11/18/19 5:25pm
you make a good argument. I wouldn't dismiss what you say outright. I do think
Idahofallsblue
11/18/19 12:16pm
He's improving. I like it, just change up the defense.
BYUCougarsFan
11/18/19 12:17pm
Yes. And bring in some decent J.C. REAL pass-rushing D.E.'s.
AntiSNOT
11/18/19 9:12pm
Our recruiting rankings are lower, yet that underclassment talent is outplaying
molodyets
11/18/19 12:17pm
The idea that the talent is worse is so bizarre to me
Tangotongo
11/18/19 12:24pm
And we seem to be getting some more speed at WR
puntersarepeople
11/18/19 12:26pm
The bigger issue is how can we restructure resource allocation
Slicey'J
11/18/19 12:58pm
This is what gives me hope, I'm not necessarily sold on Kalani, but the depth
Cougar8Duck
11/18/19 5:21pm
I wonder if our team will get “old”
puntersarepeople
11/18/19 5:33pm
Its been said that we're tied with Purdue for most freshman
Cougar8Duck
11/18/19 6:46pm
started I think
puntersarepeople
11/18/19 7:21pm
The idea of just picking a new team is bizarre.
JuicyJam
11/18/19 12:18pm
Nowhere did I ever say I would simply pick a new team
kimdaddy35
11/18/19 12:23pm
Pretty close. "Maybe I should put my resources into a team with higher goals."
JuicyJam
11/18/19 12:25pm
That team would be the Colorado Avalanche
kimdaddy35
11/18/19 12:27pm
Kalani has been very average but he is so likable everyone wants him to succeed
jes2332
11/18/19 12:19pm
It was pretty clear going into this season that bowl eligibility would buy
ataylor
11/18/19 12:20pm
That 2017 season was a debacle, and the Toledo & USF games this year reminded me
cougarmeister
11/18/19 12:21pm
He beat 2 ranked teams, destroyed Utah state, and a road P5 win
arizonacougarfan
11/18/19 12:23pm
So you subscribe to the notion that BYU fans should be happy being the 50th best
kimdaddy35
11/18/19 12:26pm
I’ll take 50th place playing third string QBs and RBs all day
puntersarepeople
11/18/19 12:27pm
Sad
kimdaddy35
11/18/19 12:29pm
It’s not sad. It’s reality
puntersarepeople
11/18/19 12:38pm
BYU's QB play only improved with the other QBs
kimdaddy35
11/18/19 12:40pm
Reread it
puntersarepeople
11/18/19 12:48pm
Yes. Its a miracle BYU is that high. This is farving BYU were talking about here
Backcountry
11/18/19 3:56pm
KimDadd35...With whoever you think is the "right" coach, what should BYU's
BYURider
11/18/19 7:09pm
& lost to Toledo & USF. You conveniently forgot those. Gotta factor them in too.
BleedCougarBlue2
11/18/19 7:38pm
He’s on track for 8-9 wins this year
BrutustheBrash
11/18/19 12:27pm
If he beats SDSU or a win in the bowl game. 7-6 is a possibility as well
Hawk Talons
11/18/19 3:52pm
But if Bronco were here we definitely would have gone 17 and -3
Backcountry
11/18/19 3:56pm
its not a big contract...so I'm not worried about it.
Avery
11/18/19 12:37pm
Bar of expectations has been lowered. Same fans a few years ago wouldn’t have
Mr. Scoobs
11/18/19 12:40pm
Agreed, Looking at the big picture, jury is still out on Kalani
Reedme
11/18/19 4:20pm
Any decent program would have fired him after the USF game. His 4 year record
777
11/18/19 12:45pm
this is laughable. any decent program?
idacoug
11/18/19 12:59pm
Correct. The decent ones expect better than hovering at .500 over the
777
11/18/19 1:05pm
I don't agree with all the complaints about KS, but just looking at records it's
Ash
11/18/19 4:28pm
I agree if you can’t be happy about things like bowl games beating Boise usc
franklyvulgar
11/18/19 12:45pm
I'm on the fence about the extension
BYUMizzou
11/18/19 12:47pm
Can't and won't argue any of those points. Ive been on the #FireKalani at points
SLIVER
11/18/19 1:58pm
Undisputably true. Excellence is over. If this is what we wanted, why fire BM?
CougarMandias
11/18/19 2:41pm
We didn't fire him. He left. And we haven't had "excellence" in 35 years, it's
molodyets
11/18/19 3:03pm
I think you have your facts wrong
Backcountry
11/18/19 3:57pm
Would you not extend even if we go 9-4 this season?
Bostonblue
11/18/19 3:09pm
I would say yes. This is what BYU is telling you
gurt
11/18/19 3:48pm
Most commercial airplanes cannot safely fly at that altitude, can they?
wiffleboy
11/18/19 3:50pm
Weird how some people dont love beating USC, UW, UT, BSU.
Backcountry
11/18/19 3:54pm
It’s not a “high” if we don’t finish strong—we are ranked 49 and we’ve averaged
Mr. Scoobs
11/18/19 4:18pm
He will literally never have a winning record against his rival
Gathers
11/18/19 4:44pm
The powers that be need to step up then
puntersarepeople
11/18/19 4:53pm
I don't think you can lay 9 losses in a row primarily on the BoT.
BleedCougarBlue2
11/18/19 7:48pm
Reading fail
puntersarepeople
11/18/19 8:37pm
Bronco trended the same way. Remember he was 0-5 the last five years
D.T. Survivor
11/18/19 5:08pm
Urban Meyer and Nick Saban couldnt coach a BYU program to regular wins against
Backcountry
11/18/19 5:45pm
I totally disagree. Absolutely disagree.
BleedCougarBlue2
11/18/19 7:49pm
1. This is the toughest schedule I have seen in a long time, so your point is
troymac32
11/18/19 5:27pm
The schedule has been tougher than average but by time we play 67 SDSU and
kooogar
11/18/19 8:17pm
Oh go cheer for the nuggets
LakeshowCougs
11/18/19 5:35pm
Too far!
CrimsonCardinal
12/2/19 3:09pm
I agree with the author. 26 w and 23 losses equals a contract extension? Nuts!
cougarforeverII
11/18/19 5:54pm
Ciao kimdaddy.
Elvis
11/18/19 6:31pm
I'll be fine with firing him when players start causing off field crime.
Rat
11/18/19 6:35pm
Crouton had harder schedules? Smoke crack much?
lilpenny
11/18/19 6:48pm
Kalani has a better record than LaVell after 4 seasons
70'sCougar
11/18/19 6:49pm
You cannot compare Kalani’s/BYU’s years as an Indy
UNHuskerCoug
11/18/19 7:00pm
whoops you are suffering from name-brand bias. The computer numbers say Crowtons
cwilke1
12/1/19 10:57am
No they don't.
Blue Cat
12/2/19 2:47pm
Indy has hurt recruiting not kalani
Baseball77
11/18/19 8:30pm
So true bronco also recruited worse as Indy
franklyvulgar
11/18/19 8:44pm
You think Crowton had tougher schedules?
ochobeeguy
11/18/19 8:46pm
I would agree with you but are there any better LDS coaches who would take the
CaliforniaCougar22
11/18/19 8:54pm
RE: This will not be a popular opinion on this board, but taking a 50,000 foot
RiseCougars
11/18/19 9:13pm
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