Bar of expectations has been lowered. Same fans a few years ago wouldn’t have

Nov 18, 2019
12:40:47pm

Mr. Scoobs All-American

felt good about current state results. 9 wins and 33 finish averages for over a decade were “holding the program back”

Now we average 6 wins, finished 36, 112, 63, and currently 49 and we are “on the right track, headed the right direction”.

We haven’t even reached the AVERAGE of the prior 11 seasons a single time.

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This will not be a popular opinion on this board, but taking a 50,000 foot

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:10pm

It might be a great time to jump ship

Indy Coug

11/18/19 12:11pm

KimDaddy is complaining about KS? Unheard of.

Benfica1

11/18/19 6:00pm

Just stop!

Blue2thebone

11/18/19 6:55pm

Stop what? The idea of supporting who the current coach is?

ReggaeCoug

11/18/19 8:24pm

please just stop!

Blue2thebone

11/19/19 12:54am

You're encouraging him to leave the island? Come on, man....

BleedCougarBlue2

11/18/19 7:30pm

Gary Crowton's record wasn't the #1 reason he got fired

CommodoreCoug

11/18/19 12:11pm

It's because off the field stuff had spiraled out of control

Indy Coug

11/18/19 12:12pm

Yep...

Refugee

11/18/19 12:16pm

The Crowton effect is still felt across multiple sports

stonecougar

11/18/19 1:12pm

What is the Crowton effect?

CougarTailDevourer

11/18/19 7:33pm

just STOP already

Blue2thebone

11/19/19 12:54am

Oh, please stop just please.

Benfica1

11/19/19 8:05am

Yes it was.

Lip Gallagher

11/18/19 4:45pm

No, it wasn’t.

Indy Coug

11/18/19 6:20pm

Yes it was. He was gone no matter what else happened.

Lip Gallagher

11/18/19 6:36pm

No he wasn’t.

Indy Coug

11/18/19 8:32pm

Yes he was. Want to keep going?

Lip Gallagher

11/18/19 8:51pm

Apparently you think Pres Samuelson is a liar. Good for you.

Indy Coug

11/18/19 9:00pm

No it wasn’t. I’ve been told by two separate GA’s that were involved.

Cougar Jazz Fan

11/18/19 7:20pm

Admin already put pressure on before that season and then he went

Lip Gallagher

11/18/19 7:55pm

So Lip ignores people who have info from the horse’s mouth

Indy Coug

11/18/19 8:33pm

Wahhhh, if he goes 8-5 or 9-4 same as bronco 4/5 years as Indy

franklyvulgar

11/18/19 12:13pm

The problem with that is that Holmoe called 8-5

pspack41

11/18/19 7:17pm

You are right.

kccougar

11/18/19 12:13pm

Because no dissenting opinions can exist in a massive fan base

vegas guey

11/18/19 12:40pm

No, because he sounds miserable. If his post is the way he really feels, he should go find a new team to cheer for

kccougar

11/18/19 12:43pm

And many on here wonder why Aggies and Utes think of BYU fans

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:43pm

You were the one making the argument to find another team. I just agreed with you.

kccougar

11/18/19 12:45pm

Agree 💯

kahuna

11/18/19 1:43pm

Joining the countless number of former Cougar Fans who have de-prioritized

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:41pm

For your fiery original post, you sure seem sensitive

D.T. Survivor

11/18/19 5:06pm

Well you said it yourself, "this may not be a popular opinion" so why are you

Johnny Vatos

11/18/19 5:39pm

Lame. Seriously. Does every disagreement have to go the ultimate extreme?

777

11/18/19 1:00pm

Kimdaddy is the one suggesting he will stop supporting BYU.

JuicyJam

11/18/19 1:01pm

Maybe so, I missed that part, but this isn't the first time I've seen this

777

11/18/19 1:03pm

Maybe you should have read the OP in it's entirety.

SaintGeorgeYFan

11/18/19 6:34pm

Yes

Garn

11/18/19 7:15pm

Are you new to the internet? That’s kind of how CB works.

CrimsonCardinal

11/18/19 8:48pm

I think many agree with some of your points, but it is now a done deal. Time to support the players and program.

Turnpike Lane

11/18/19 12:15pm

Ya- just like crowton, he is not HC material

claw

11/18/19 12:15pm

We could go from 6-4 to 9-4 or 8-5 with a lot of young guys playing

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 12:16pm

Problem is that BYU always has a lot of young guys playing for some reason

BYU '80

11/18/19 6:05pm

We were older in 2015 and 2016

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 8:50pm

Go give your resources to utah, they're full of disgruntled byu hating people.

CougarBuddy

11/18/19 12:16pm

Hard pass. We have too many negative ignorant know nothing about

DocPimp

11/18/19 12:18pm

Yeah, way too many yewts who can't form a proper sentence

vegas guey

11/18/19 12:42pm

Always a great day when you can incite English Language smack.

DocPimp

11/18/19 1:11pm

*cite

SierraCoug

11/18/19 1:39pm

INcite. As in ‘incite’ the grammar neeerrrrdddssss.

DocPimp

11/18/19 4:04pm

Well, aren't you special.

SierraCoug

11/18/19 5:16pm

I think so.

DocPimp

11/18/19 5:25pm

you make a good argument. I wouldn't dismiss what you say outright. I do think

Idahofallsblue

11/18/19 12:16pm

He's improving. I like it, just change up the defense.

BYUCougarsFan

11/18/19 12:17pm

Yes. And bring in some decent J.C. REAL pass-rushing D.E.'s.

AntiSNOT

11/18/19 9:12pm

Our recruiting rankings are lower, yet that underclassment talent is outplaying

molodyets

11/18/19 12:17pm

The idea that the talent is worse is so bizarre to me

Tangotongo

11/18/19 12:24pm

And we seem to be getting some more speed at WR

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 12:26pm

The bigger issue is how can we restructure resource allocation

Slicey'J

11/18/19 12:58pm

This is what gives me hope, I'm not necessarily sold on Kalani, but the depth

Cougar8Duck

11/18/19 5:21pm

I wonder if our team will get “old”

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 5:33pm

Its been said that we're tied with Purdue for most freshman

Cougar8Duck

11/18/19 6:46pm

started I think

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 7:21pm

The idea of just picking a new team is bizarre.

JuicyJam

11/18/19 12:18pm

Nowhere did I ever say I would simply pick a new team

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:23pm

Pretty close. "Maybe I should put my resources into a team with higher goals."

JuicyJam

11/18/19 12:25pm

That team would be the Colorado Avalanche

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:27pm

Kalani has been very average but he is so likable everyone wants him to succeed

jes2332

11/18/19 12:19pm

It was pretty clear going into this season that bowl eligibility would buy

ataylor

11/18/19 12:20pm

That 2017 season was a debacle, and the Toledo & USF games this year reminded me

cougarmeister

11/18/19 12:21pm

He beat 2 ranked teams, destroyed Utah state, and a road P5 win

arizonacougarfan

11/18/19 12:23pm

So you subscribe to the notion that BYU fans should be happy being the 50th best

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:26pm

I’ll take 50th place playing third string QBs and RBs all day

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 12:27pm

Sad

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:29pm

It’s not sad. It’s reality

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 12:38pm

BYU's QB play only improved with the other QBs

kimdaddy35

11/18/19 12:40pm

Reread it

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 12:48pm

Yes. Its a miracle BYU is that high. This is farving BYU were talking about here

Backcountry

11/18/19 3:56pm

KimDadd35...With whoever you think is the "right" coach, what should BYU's

BYURider

11/18/19 7:09pm

& lost to Toledo & USF. You conveniently forgot those. Gotta factor them in too.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/18/19 7:38pm

He’s on track for 8-9 wins this year

BrutustheBrash

11/18/19 12:27pm

If he beats SDSU or a win in the bowl game. 7-6 is a possibility as well

Hawk Talons

11/18/19 3:52pm

But if Bronco were here we definitely would have gone 17 and -3

Backcountry

11/18/19 3:56pm

its not a big contract...so I'm not worried about it.

Avery

11/18/19 12:37pm

Bar of expectations has been lowered. Same fans a few years ago wouldn’t have

Mr. Scoobs

11/18/19 12:40pm

Agreed, Looking at the big picture, jury is still out on Kalani

Reedme

11/18/19 4:20pm

Any decent program would have fired him after the USF game. His 4 year record

777

11/18/19 12:45pm

this is laughable. any decent program?

idacoug

11/18/19 12:59pm

Correct. The decent ones expect better than hovering at .500 over the

777

11/18/19 1:05pm

I don't agree with all the complaints about KS, but just looking at records it's

Ash

11/18/19 4:28pm

I agree if you can’t be happy about things like bowl games beating Boise usc

franklyvulgar

11/18/19 12:45pm

I'm on the fence about the extension

BYUMizzou

11/18/19 12:47pm

Can't and won't argue any of those points. Ive been on the #FireKalani at points

SLIVER

11/18/19 1:58pm

Undisputably true. Excellence is over. If this is what we wanted, why fire BM?

CougarMandias

11/18/19 2:41pm

We didn't fire him. He left. And we haven't had "excellence" in 35 years, it's

molodyets

11/18/19 3:03pm

I think you have your facts wrong

Backcountry

11/18/19 3:57pm

Would you not extend even if we go 9-4 this season?

Bostonblue

11/18/19 3:09pm

I would say yes. This is what BYU is telling you

gurt

11/18/19 3:48pm

Most commercial airplanes cannot safely fly at that altitude, can they?

wiffleboy

11/18/19 3:50pm

Weird how some people dont love beating USC, UW, UT, BSU.

Backcountry

11/18/19 3:54pm

It’s not a “high” if we don’t finish strong—we are ranked 49 and we’ve averaged

Mr. Scoobs

11/18/19 4:18pm

He will literally never have a winning record against his rival

Gathers

11/18/19 4:44pm

The powers that be need to step up then

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 4:53pm

I don't think you can lay 9 losses in a row primarily on the BoT.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/18/19 7:48pm

Reading fail

puntersarepeople

11/18/19 8:37pm

Bronco trended the same way. Remember he was 0-5 the last five years

D.T. Survivor

11/18/19 5:08pm

Urban Meyer and Nick Saban couldnt coach a BYU program to regular wins against

Backcountry

11/18/19 5:45pm

I totally disagree. Absolutely disagree.

BleedCougarBlue2

11/18/19 7:49pm

1. This is the toughest schedule I have seen in a long time, so your point is

troymac32

11/18/19 5:27pm

The schedule has been tougher than average but by time we play 67 SDSU and

kooogar

11/18/19 8:17pm

Oh go cheer for the nuggets

LakeshowCougs

11/18/19 5:35pm

Too far!

CrimsonCardinal

12/2/19 3:09pm

I agree with the author. 26 w and 23 losses equals a contract extension? Nuts!

cougarforeverII

11/18/19 5:54pm

Ciao kimdaddy.

Elvis

11/18/19 6:31pm

I'll be fine with firing him when players start causing off field crime.

Rat

11/18/19 6:35pm

Crouton had harder schedules? Smoke crack much?

lilpenny

11/18/19 6:48pm

Kalani has a better record than LaVell after 4 seasons

70'sCougar

11/18/19 6:49pm

You cannot compare Kalani’s/BYU’s years as an Indy

UNHuskerCoug

11/18/19 7:00pm

whoops you are suffering from name-brand bias. The computer numbers say Crowtons

cwilke1

12/1/19 10:57am

No they don't.

Blue Cat

12/2/19 2:47pm

Indy has hurt recruiting not kalani

Baseball77

11/18/19 8:30pm

So true bronco also recruited worse as Indy

franklyvulgar

11/18/19 8:44pm

You think Crowton had tougher schedules?

ochobeeguy

11/18/19 8:46pm

I would agree with you but are there any better LDS coaches who would take the

CaliforniaCougar22

11/18/19 8:54pm

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