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Jan 12, 2020
11:39:47am

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university and agreeing to pay tuition and fees is the same thing as taxes? That’s not an absurd premise?

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Should Utah go back to the MWC?

Huge Manatee

1/11/20 11:09am

RE: Should Utah go back to the MWC?

byuluvr

1/11/20 11:10am

Not more so than your response to a legit question based on the reasons they all

travelcoug

1/11/20 12:18pm

I don’t think the MWC would want or take them back. Maybe if they took a half

Unibro

1/11/20 11:12am

Big Sky

Blueto

1/11/20 11:13am

Why are they allowed to continue to waste taxpayers' hard-earned money?

Gustav

1/11/20 11:18am

They don't.

Scratch

1/11/20 11:37am

Only if you don't count the part they do

Gustav

1/11/20 1:10pm

You realize these things are closely audited, right? And no tax dollars go to

Scratch

1/11/20 1:50pm

Really, who pays for all those scholarships? I know no tithing money is used

TrueBlue67

1/11/20 4:05pm

The athletic department pays the school for all the scholarships.

Scratch

1/11/20 4:36pm

No taxpayer funds go to the University? Imma gonna need to see some proof. The

BYUtka

1/11/20 3:24pm

Look at page 7. Zero direct state or government support.

Scratch

1/11/20 4:02pm

You can google other years if you care that much.

Scratch

1/11/20 4:03pm

That is just the athletic department. How much does the University take?

BYUtka

1/11/20 4:11pm

A lot, like every state university. But none goes to athletics, which is what

Scratch

1/11/20 4:38pm

No. Not what WE were talking about.. I very clearly said the University, not one

BYUtka

1/12/20 9:21am

Nope, that may have been what you were talking about but it’s not what the

Scratch

1/12/20 11:46am

The only people trying to twist it to ONLY one limited department in the whole

BYUtka

1/12/20 12:10pm

Huh? Every post except yours dealt with athletics.

Scratch

1/12/20 12:27pm

Because that is part of the whole. I didn't say it wasn't.

BYUtka

1/12/20 12:29pm

Right, LOL

Gustav

1/11/20 4:26pm

The primary “subsidy” by far is that the university allows the AD to only pay

Scratch

1/11/20 4:41pm

I would argue mandatory student fees are essentially taxes

cougarfann888

1/12/20 1:09am

That’s one of the most absurd thing I’ve ever read.

Scratch

1/12/20 7:41am

You must not read much.

BYUtka

1/12/20 9:26am

You think it’s reasonable and logical to say that a student enrolling in a

Scratch

1/12/20 11:39am

Very similar, yes. Especially as the school is still also taking taxes.

BYUtka

1/12/20 12:30pm

BYU also takes tax dollars. So I guess when it uses tuition for anything that’s

Scratch

1/12/20 12:32pm

Not at all in the same way Uof U does.

BYUtka

1/12/20 1:01pm

So you draw the line precisely where it fits your personal biases. You sound

Scratch

1/12/20 1:15pm

I am. You should try it sometime.

BYUtka

1/12/20 8:53pm

They took in $515M in govt research grants in 2018

keylimesoda

1/11/20 5:09pm

Why is the y ok wasting tithing money on fb.

bluenowandforever

1/11/20 5:13pm

They aren't. The costs are very low and the excess is sent to the University

BYUtka

1/12/20 9:29am

Ha. The 2 schools’ ADs financial approaches are essentially the same.

Scratch

1/12/20 11:00am

That is a laughable assertion. They are basically opposite. UofU tosses money

BYUtka

1/12/20 11:04am

Just look at how much the University just spent on their Chief of police's party

BYUtka

1/12/20 11:17am

So how does Utah athletics waste money? Krystko is probably overpaid, but at

Scratch

1/12/20 11:38am

How much more than USU do they spend? Why is USU able to run an athletic Dept.

BYUtka

1/12/20 12:34pm

Seriously? Because being in the P12 and having a larger fan base (and potential

Scratch

1/12/20 12:44pm

You are greatly exaggerating any "opportunity" here. The ROI is poor.

BYUtka

1/12/20 1:02pm

Oh please. If Utah has USU’s budget would it be in the P12? Of course not.

Scratch

1/12/20 1:18pm

"Sell Out" Hahaha haha... That claim involves magic math.

BYUtka

1/12/20 6:13pm

Huh? What are you talking about?

Scratch

1/12/20 6:26pm

Easy to "sellout" when extra tickets are given out for free.

BYUtka

1/12/20 8:54pm

They’re not.

Scratch

1/12/20 8:59pm

Ok. Not true or accurate, but keep telling yourself that. Keep "selling out"

BYUtka

1/12/20 9:02pm

I love these absurd claims without any evidence. So they’re expanding so they

Scratch

1/12/20 9:05pm

And you predictably point to one of the obvious examples of the University waste

BYUtka

1/12/20 9:11pm

CougarboardLogic tweet of this coming soon

DryFlyUte

1/11/20 11:29am

Oh the guy who either doesn't know about sarcasm or is super naive?

IceCreamButt

1/11/20 11:34am

Funny how both seem to describe many yewts who frequent this board.

Rise Against

1/11/20 11:40am

Except I know several BYU fans who sincerely believe

DryFlyUte

1/11/20 11:42am

And I know a Yewt fan that thought the Utes made the playoff

puntersarepeople

1/11/20 11:43am

Lol....

kotacoug

1/11/20 11:53am

Ah, the ol' "I didn't realize it was sarcasm, so I pretended to know people who believe that way" ploy. Nicely done!

jdub

1/11/20 12:26pm

Believe what you want and whatever makes you feel good.

DryFlyUte

1/11/20 12:57pm

So she was kidding around but you took her seriously

BYU '80

1/11/20 12:58pm

No. No, you don't.

boogers

1/11/20 12:41pm

Really? I’ve never talked to one and I know a lot.

BYU '80

1/11/20 12:58pm

Lol, no you don’t.

Pimpin4Paradise

1/12/20 10:55am

That moment you realize that even ALUF 1990 caught the sarcasm but you didn’t.

Pimpin4Paradise

1/12/20 10:58am

RE: CougarboardLogic tweet of this coming soon

Zaphod

1/11/20 12:08pm

Theyve been in the PAC12 for several years now, and have yet to get a conference

Rise Against

1/11/20 11:33am

i'm surprised a Yewt fan hasn't made a post yet asking

Mountain Rat

1/11/20 11:56am

To be fair, when they were in the WAC/MWC, they only won 1-2 OCC in something

Division Bell

1/11/20 2:52pm

Come on now, they were only 50 points away from an amazing season.

vagabonder

1/11/20 12:10pm

This better not be a joke; I just spent $49 on an MWC sticker license

BYU'01

1/11/20 12:13pm

FTR. This is about as good as a post can get.

boogers

1/11/20 12:46pm

your post has some funny sarcasm so congrats. But the smack is hollow

run26

1/11/20 1:41pm

Pretty solid smack actually. Just cause you don’t like it doesn’t mean it’s not

theozfam

1/11/20 1:51pm

I did enjoy it. But it seems hollow to me because BYU is G5

run26

1/11/20 2:53pm

Which G5 do we belong too?

travelcoug

1/11/20 3:50pm

You’re either P5 or you’re not in my simple world

run26

1/11/20 3:51pm

Yes, thinking can be hard. If most P5 opponents consider us P5 then that’s all

Robbinoburrito

1/11/20 4:53pm

You’re making a big assumption

run26

1/11/20 5:05pm

Your argument that BYU isn’t P5 because it isn’t part of a P5 conference

Robbinoburrito

1/11/20 8:02pm

This is correct. We have top P5 level exposure. We have Low P5 level money

travelcoug

1/11/20 11:14pm

No, p5 doesn’t play Toledo, Idaho State...

coldcoug

1/12/20 12:37pm

This is just false, don’t just come on here and be ignorant

travelcoug

1/12/20 2:25pm

You are comparing the one fcs game vs a several game schedule. Don’t be stupid.

coldcoug

1/12/20 2:27pm

You just pointed out our 1 fcs game and our worst G5 while ignoring a schedule

travelcoug

1/12/20 7:01pm

Aaaand this is your quote No, p5 doesn’t play Toledo, Idaho State... That is

travelcoug

1/12/20 7:05pm

Yeah sure. Rant on, it's just silly.

coldcoug

1/12/20 7:52pm

Wow.... that hurt. Hahaha not a rant reality.

travelcoug

1/12/20 8:00pm

Your simple world does not reflect reality.

shammy

1/12/20 11:45am

BYU is not g5. You can say it a million times and I think you may be close to

travelcoug

1/11/20 1:51pm

It’s not yewt smack. It’s smack against those who want BYU in a G5.

AZcougLawyer

1/11/20 11:18pm

Same people

travelcoug

1/11/20 11:23pm

This post solidifies our little brother status.

coldcoug

1/11/20 2:56pm

Moral authority alert!

theozfam

1/11/20 7:54pm

Am I the only one who saw this more as condemning the BYU fans who think we

tony

1/11/20 3:57pm

That’s the joke that so many don’t seem to see.

JohnnyComeLately

1/11/20 4:00pm

They don’t see it because it is not comparing two equals.

coldcoug

1/11/20 4:04pm

Might as well be for as much sense as it makes in our situation too

Resurgens

1/12/20 2:49pm

You saw it as it is.

AZcougLawyer

1/11/20 11:21pm

Two birds, one stone. That's what makes this post so great.

SafetyFirst

1/12/20 12:22am

That’s how I saw it.

BYUHgrad

1/13/20 3:07pm

Well played, Manatee. Well played.

BYUlv

1/11/20 4:18pm

Usually lurk. Logged in for the sole purpose of giving this post of the day

Yattic

1/11/20 4:19pm

Me too.

SafetyFirst

1/12/20 12:21am

Only on these conditions should they go back:

coldcoug

1/11/20 4:42pm

This is brilliant. You have given us the ultimate smack talk for Ute friends.

Ham

1/11/20 5:15pm

It’s stupid.

coldcoug

1/11/20 5:16pm

Correct. Just as stupid as people saying BYU should go back.

boogers

1/11/20 6:10pm

Totally different.

coldcoug

1/11/20 8:24pm

Heck no...you want a 10 game losing streak to a MWC team?

Gathers

1/11/20 5:46pm

Well done. 👏👏👏

diluigifan

1/11/20 7:05pm

POTD from me. Quality smack.

ALUF 1990

1/11/20 7:28pm

Simple answer, yes.

Beetdiggercoug

1/12/20 10:06am

It is the only reasonable course of action.

BYUtka

1/12/20 10:34am

Yes it is.

Beetdiggercoug

1/12/20 11:07am

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