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Feb 20, 2020
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Mathew All-American

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So are John Beck, Max Hall, and Jake Heaps all wrong about Zach Wilson?

BYURider

2/19/20 8:33pm

Yes

Backcountry

2/19/20 8:34pm

How can one be wrong when stating that ______ could be ______?

mulletino

2/19/20 8:36pm

Zach will not be a first round pick

Backcountry

2/19/20 8:38pm

Preach it brother! I pray you're wrong, but you won't be wrong.

TheWoodman

2/19/20 9:47pm

Good call. You guys Vegas bigwigs?

mulletino

2/19/20 10:47pm

You don't know. I don't know. It remains to be seen.

rockyrd

2/20/20 8:46am

Technically correct. Also, i may win the powerball and spend the rest of my life

Backcountry

2/20/20 10:39am

That's your wildest dream if you win the powerball?

HONOMO

2/20/20 11:26am

Oh yeah

Backcountry

2/20/20 12:38pm

Nope he will not.

dodgersjazzcougs

2/20/20 1:51pm

Where the source for them saying 1st round pick potential, haven’t seen that?

BYUfan92

2/19/20 8:35pm

No. Zach has the potential. It just needs to be realized. It’s not yet.

Turnpike Lane

2/19/20 8:36pm

Here's the deal. Some of us have seen some great QB's come through BYU. Romney,

Mathew

2/19/20 8:41pm

Not saying you’re wrong about anything but

puntersarepeople

2/19/20 8:46pm

I guess if I cared about JB and Heaps I would have put them in the same

Mathew

2/19/20 8:53pm

So because they aren’t “greats” your opinion is equal to theirs?

Jimmerfan32

2/20/20 10:32am

RE: So because they aren’t “greats” your opinion is equal to

Mathew

2/20/20 12:32pm

That’s not the point. These guys WORK with QBS

puntersarepeople

2/20/20 10:48am

And our DC does it for a living yet my watching from the TV knows that our defen

YaHerdWithPerd

2/20/20 12:10pm

He doesn't hesitate with throws when they're already given to him.

Lip Gallagher

2/19/20 9:04pm

So, if it makes things so much easier, why didn't they do it for Zach?

Zip

2/19/20 9:08pm

I'm not following your logic. So, Good luck.

Mathew

2/19/20 9:13pm

You don't understand the concept of changing the game plan for a freshman?

Lip Gallagher

2/20/20 8:11am

If simplifying the game plan gets wins shouldn't they have done that for Zach

GilbertAZCougar

2/20/20 1:25pm

Romney has had one good game. and Boise was weak compared to BYU's 1st

BYURider

2/19/20 9:53pm

What about Toledo, Hawaii, Idaho St., etc. was awful on those games.

Dangerous

2/20/20 3:54am

Correct. But Romney still only had 1 good game.

BYURider

2/20/20 5:29am

Pretty good against USU and not bad against Liberty. Liberty was better than

Mathew

2/20/20 7:30am

Until I see him play a 4 game stretch like

BYURider

2/20/20 8:01am

I'll stick with my own lying eyes.

Jacksonian76

2/19/20 8:58pm

I think they’re wrong on him being a 1st round draft pick

SlantRoute

2/19/20 9:04pm

so far. in 2 years? we'll see

BYURider

2/19/20 9:49pm

They have to hype up their Alma Maters starter. We don’t have too it’s obvious

Blue2thebone

2/19/20 10:04pm

Yes. They are.

Ikuna

2/19/20 10:19pm

Umm, Beck was a 2nd Rounder

2FarGone

2/19/20 10:37pm

Beck undrafted?

cambo

2/19/20 10:59pm

My bad. Misremembered. Was on the mission.

Ikuna

2/20/20 3:48pm

Well, I watched a BYU sports interview where Steve Young said when ZW was.......

BleedCougarBlue2

2/19/20 11:53pm

All 3 of them were in the NFL, btw.

ACrop

2/20/20 12:39am

They never said that. He is on trajectory to not be drafted.

Dangerous

2/20/20 12:54am

RE: They never said that. He is on trajectory to not be drafted.

donnerstag

2/20/20 6:25am

This was before last year. Ask again and no one will say that.

Dangerous

2/20/20 8:15am

Did you not watch the season of Jordan Love?

donnerstag

2/20/20 8:25am

Love has better NFL measurables than Wilson...

CoachSpeak

2/20/20 8:41am

Here's the thing

donnerstag

2/20/20 9:50am

Well I certainly think guys like Beck, Hall, and Heaps...

CoachSpeak

2/20/20 9:56am

To be drafted in the first round you usually are the best QB on your team.

TAMUCoug

2/20/20 5:19am

RE: So are John Beck, Max Hall, and Jake Heaps all wrong about Zach Wilson?

blu76

2/20/20 5:46am

Nobody denies the potential, but so far he has been largely underwhelming.

vagabonder

2/20/20 6:46am

Many people are denying his potential

donnerstag

2/20/20 8:07am

Problem is that the mistakes are often back-breaking turnovers that cost us the

Dangerous

2/20/20 8:16am

Yes. He needs more development time to fix his issues

donnerstag

2/20/20 8:26am

We don't care if he is written off of the NFL, we want to win in college.

TAMUCoug

2/20/20 8:44am

This is really the point...

CoachSpeak

2/20/20 9:09am

Except that the NFL doesn't value being "great" on the college level

donnerstag

2/20/20 10:00am

I'm not talking about what the NFL thinks...

CoachSpeak

2/20/20 10:19am

Tom Brady was not a physical freak

donnerstag

2/20/20 10:40am

Tom Brady also wasn't a first round pick...

CoachSpeak

2/20/20 10:51am

Then there is Josh Rosen

donnerstag

2/20/20 11:50am

There are always outliers...

CoachSpeak

2/20/20 2:09pm

I guarantee though that you'll be saying these same things after another so-so

Ash

2/20/20 1:05pm

Not really. Most freshmen are not good from day 1

donnerstag

2/20/20 3:38pm

Yes

The Maestro

2/20/20 9:09am

Potential isn't always reality

shakarocks

2/20/20 9:14am

I don't get why so many leave Jaren out of the conversation either...

CoachSpeak

2/20/20 9:28am

Injuries. They don’t know if he can be healthy

puntersarepeople

2/20/20 9:32am

I don't know if any of them can be healthy

shakarocks

2/20/20 10:09am

His second "concussion" was not really a concussion...

CoachSpeak

2/20/20 10:16am

He's easily the most dangerous QB

shakarocks

2/20/20 10:06am

They certainly know way more than me

D.T. Survivor

2/20/20 9:59am

Hard to say definitively what his body will look like

puntersarepeople

2/20/20 10:51am

That’s true, I hope it comes back this year

D.T. Survivor

2/20/20 12:32pm

Are they all 100% honest about their actual feelings on the radio?

davidmj10

2/20/20 10:08am

Did any of them say that he makes great decisions? Honest question.

HONOMO

2/20/20 11:23am

That is how he was taught to escape the pocket. He does it a little deep but

davidmj10

2/20/20 11:32am

I'm no QB expert but I don't see the greats doing that very often

HONOMO

2/20/20 1:19pm

How about step into the pocket like Romney does.

Dangerous

2/20/20 2:04pm

I don't know this for a fact but it looks to me like a lot

davidmj10

2/20/20 2:38pm

There are some designed for that for sure

HONOMO

2/20/20 8:15pm

When you are going for credibility, you should leave out Heaps.

YaHerdWithPerd

2/20/20 11:29am

CB is right about the big things actually. I am someone who thinks and has

Ash

2/20/20 1:03pm

I don't think he has anywhere near the size most 1st Rounders have (or the playmaking ability those who lack size have)

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