it Sucks. People die every day that maybe could’ve been saved but we don’t put

Mar 15, 2020
11:03:02pm

jholling All-American

Doctors and police at every corner of every street because it costs too much. Why stop the rest of the world so we can save 5,000 people that are going to die in a couple years anyway?

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More die from Influenza in 2019 than Covid-19? True, but here is the problem...

doctorcoug

3/15/20 10:41pm

Thanks Doc! Good luck and stay safe!

Josef K

3/15/20 10:45pm

I deserve no award. My colleagues? Totally different situation.

doctorcoug

3/15/20 11:23pm

So many one liners we like to throw out there - are just uninformed

Boanerges

3/15/20 10:45pm

How quickly could $10B add ICU beds?

Joe Banks

3/15/20 10:46pm

Hospitals have a hard enough time staying open with all the regulations in the

fattycoug

3/15/20 10:50pm

I blame lawyers for the excessive medical regulations. Really.

BleedCougarBlue2

3/15/20 11:01pm

Don’t blame lawyers, blame Medicare. Can’t believe people want that to be the

akmewg

3/15/20 11:26pm

Lawyers pushed multi-million lawsuits for stupid medical stuff. Hospitals......

BleedCougarBlue2

3/15/20 11:46pm

Akmewg is right, the regs are much more tied to CMS, not lawyers

D.T. Survivor

3/16/20 6:52am

It’s my understanding, the facilities would not need to be that complex. The

BYU-Ite

3/15/20 11:03pm

Not even fluids which can make worse. They’re also typically hemodynamically

cougfanz

3/15/20 11:12pm

I don't know. I just know that I work at a hospital and it's almost soul crushin

fattycoug

3/15/20 11:19pm

I doubt vents can be built and shipped overnight. That's the issue.

doctorcoug

3/15/20 10:50pm

I would bet that if you put a billion or so dollars on the manufacturers desk

BYU-Ite

3/15/20 10:59pm

That my take. 100 million dollar contract. 100 million to any lab that develops

cougfanz

3/15/20 11:16pm

That is really what this entire thing boils down to - hospital capacity.

Pistol Shrimp

3/15/20 10:51pm

This is where I kind of disagree. With the damage we are doing to the economy

Lance71

3/15/20 11:21pm

You can also utilize tele medicine to have one doc manage a lot of patients

cougfanz

3/15/20 11:25pm

It's all about vents. How many ventilators are available...we already use

doctorcoug

3/15/20 11:28pm

Yup. Just making that point to others how you really don’t need a physician in

cougfanz

3/15/20 11:30pm

In a pinch, could a bi-pap machine work in place of a ventilator for some?

SafetyFirst

3/16/20 9:22am

Helps. Also concern it can spread infection more to staff. Not an end all

cougfanz

3/16/20 9:48am

We also can't sustain 6-12 months of economic upheaval, though

fattycoug

3/15/20 10:53pm

But to what extent should we worry about the economy? Is it okay to lay off hundreds of thousands

Brisco

3/15/20 10:53pm

That is the million dollar question.

idcougarfan

3/15/20 10:55pm

Why is this so hard? HOSPITALS THAT ARE OVERRUN WITH ELDERLY PATIENTS

SandYFan

3/15/20 10:55pm

So we shouldn't worry about the economy?

IceCreamButt

3/15/20 10:58pm

Don't know where I said anything about the economy. What I did talk about

SandYFan

3/15/20 10:59pm

Maybe it's time you start talking about it.

Brisco

3/15/20 11:02pm

it Sucks. People die every day that maybe could’ve been saved but we don’t put

jholling

3/15/20 11:03pm

You didn't even read my post, did you.

SandYFan

3/15/20 11:03pm

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All-American

3/15/20 11:16pm

Like you apparently didn't read briscos but looks like you still replied.

IceCreamButt

3/15/20 11:17pm

Clearly I prioritize hospital care for those who need it over economy.

SandYFan

3/15/20 11:18pm

You replied to a comment talking about what extent we should worry about the

IceCreamButt

3/15/20 11:06pm

I honestly don't care. The economy can rebound. It always has.

SandYFan

3/15/20 11:07pm

The economy will rebound, but there will be many families and individuals who go through a lot of suffering because

No touching

3/15/20 11:12pm

Better than those who need hospital care not getting it.

SandYFan

3/15/20 11:13pm

You would rather have suicides, broken homes, children suffering

kotacoug

3/15/20 11:38pm

Apparently he doesn’t care about that

mobius

3/15/20 11:43pm

Try reading.

SandYFan

3/15/20 11:46pm

I did. Found nothing that said otherwise.

mobius

3/15/20 11:49pm

You can't be bothered to read my posts, huh?

SandYFan

3/15/20 11:46pm

Could be that are choosing physical health over mental health.

jholling

3/15/20 11:38pm

Forget the hospitals for a moment. How are hundreds of thousands of laid off workers going to pay their rent and eat?

Brisco

3/15/20 11:01pm

I'd prefer not to forget about the people dying because they can't get

SandYFan

3/15/20 11:02pm

You don't have to forget about either

fattycoug

3/15/20 11:03pm

If there are so many of those, how are the old people with Covid getting admitted?

Brisco

3/15/20 11:05pm

Why is this so hard? IF YOU SHUT DOWN THE ECONOMY FOR TOO LONG TERRIBLE, TERRIBL

fattycoug

3/15/20 11:01pm

I'm going to prioritize people getting hospital treatment they need. You do

SandYFan

3/15/20 11:02pm

People who are out of work will not be able to afford medical care.

buhlcougar

3/16/20 12:13am

Show up at the ER and you'll be taken care of. It's America.

SandYFan

3/16/20 1:00am

Name checks out.

vagabonder

3/15/20 10:54pm

Do people in ICU with "regular" flu have stays in that 3 day range? Just wonder

nomomtn

3/15/20 10:58pm

The concept is it’s spread out in the flu season and not all in one week

cougfanz

3/15/20 11:07pm

This morbid, sorry about that, post-influenza pneumonia has a much faster time

doctorcoug

3/15/20 11:20pm

Thank you for all your information. The more we understand the better.

nomomtn

3/15/20 11:29pm

True. But I could also go to any hospital and send at least 50% home

cougfanz

3/15/20 11:06pm

Seems we should take empty hotels and turn them into makeshift hospitals. Especially with hotels that have kitchen

HarlemCoug

3/15/20 11:30pm

Who mans these “hospitals” without equipment or the equipment to keep u safe?

Nakedbootleg

3/15/20 11:46pm

Im guessing if this gets bad that we are going to have most of our ERs filled with vented patients.

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