What are the fundamental differences between how our fire fighting system is

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Mar 28, 2020
6:50:36am

Uncle Bluto All-American

structured and health care? Hmmm.... Nah. That couldn't be it.

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Uncle Bluto

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A lot of Truth in this reader comment from another forum

Busiturtle

3/28/20 6:45am

What are the fundamental differences between how our fire fighting system is

Uncle Bluto

3/28/20 6:50am

Me thinks you don’t understand why the healthcare system isn’t/wasn’t ready

Littlerich

3/28/20 6:51am

Yep, completely applicable comparison. So you'd have hospitals build huge

slowhiteguy

3/28/20 6:55am

Don't forget all the extra Drs and nurses on staff waiting for the surge

Tare

3/28/20 6:57am

Absolutely, we should be ready to handle a once in a 100 years illness.

Jacksonian76

3/28/20 8:16am

Hospitals operate on thin margins and you expect them

BYU '80

3/28/20 9:25am

All this happened at a time when hospitals and other

KingDave

3/28/20 9:53am

Would it costmore than shutting down the economy for months on end?

Jacksonian76

3/28/20 9:54am

It wouldn’t be worth it

KingDave

3/28/20 10:10am

The last global depression led right into WW2.

Jacksonian76

3/28/20 10:31am

Wow don’t know where to start to address this post

BYU '80

3/29/20 2:35am

My point is the cost of every other technology, even cutting

Jacksonian76

3/29/20 7:49am

Busiturtle advocating for socialized medicine? Strange times indeed.

Tare

3/28/20 6:55am

Cause the VA health system is so amazing.

slowhiteguy

3/28/20 7:00am

You have to pay for VA healthcare unless you incurred a severe medical issue

Lieutenant America

3/28/20 7:48pm

Yeah, and while we’ve got the pitchforks out, how about TP manufacturers!!

NOCAL_YFAN

3/28/20 7:07am

Well excrement makers obviously stepped up production.

CougarThug

3/28/20 9:09am

Actually TP supply matches demand very well.

CougarThug

3/28/20 9:14am

Example: Hospital has 50 ventilators. 400 people need them at once. 350 dead.

dave

3/28/20 7:27am

Actually, for urban areas the answer is yes.

Busiturtle

3/28/20 7:33am

Talk, talk, talk, and no actual preparation

Busiturtle

3/28/20 7:44am

You gonna pay for that? Ever priced those things out?

dave

3/28/20 9:48am

If you are advocating socialized medicine, you have not seen it first hand.

coolblue

3/28/20 7:33am

I think this is more of a military need right now. We give 600 billion a year

tawillin

3/28/20 7:34am

Nuke SARS COV 2!!!

Lieutenant America

3/28/20 8:34pm

Board name subtitle checks out

SingleStrapBackpack

3/28/20 7:40am

Agreed. Those dissenting voices do not understand that

Recipefordisaster

3/28/20 7:58am

Socialized medicine or not, there isn't a medical system in the world prepared

superdoo

3/28/20 8:24am

Great post

BYU '80

3/28/20 9:29am

Preach brother.

777

3/28/20 3:13pm

Stop being so logical, you might offend someone 😉

seacougar

3/28/20 7:07pm

South Korea handled it just fine

Zoobieman

3/29/20 3:10pm

Sorry, that's dumb.

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 8:57am

Please elaborate...

Recipefordisaster

3/28/20 9:01am

Healthcare system is more than emergency room/icu measures.

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 9:12am

I like this busiturtle person. The turtle calls it like it is!

TheWoodman

3/28/20 9:01am

Hard to ramp up a pandemic response when critical items like pharmaceuticals...

CougarThug

3/28/20 9:23am

Healthcare didn’t fail. The feds did

BYU '80

3/28/20 9:28am

I'm not sure the feds have failed yet either...

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 9:41am

Fair enough

BYU '80

3/29/20 2:38am

By this logic, every business person should have set aside enough $$ to cover this acute event and be ready for it.

Turnpike Lane

3/28/20 9:44am

You'll see big change in medical costs if Trump's rule for hospitals to show

gingi

3/28/20 9:48am

If medical costs go down then medical responsiveness will go down...

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 9:59am

And I believe the death rate of this pandemic in the us...

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 10:02am

Excellent points. Just concerned about purposeful concealment of prices.

gingi

3/28/20 11:28am

Sure. Just ask for the private fee schedule.

CougarBuddy

3/28/20 11:47am

Those fees are higher because of the purposefully concealed prices. They are goo

gingi

3/28/20 3:03pm

It’s true though most will just keep hammering home “our healthcare is broken”

BYU '80

3/29/20 2:40am

Hospitals have a Monopoly. They are money making machines.

Recipefordisaster

3/28/20 10:23pm

They operate on thin margins. Ask anyone that knows healthcare finance

BYU '80

3/29/20 2:42am

Not for profit organizations always operate on thin margins, they have to give

Jacksonian76

3/29/20 8:22am

Well you did not ask about my experience in the field.

Recipefordisaster

3/29/20 5:48pm

The fines for not doing it are small. Most won’t

BYU '80

3/29/20 2:39am

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The Brig

3/28/20 10:03am

The equivalent of this is if lots of random buildings

KingDave

3/28/20 10:19am

Wow. You really have no idea what you are talking about.

StalwartBraveTrue

3/29/20 11:22am

He thinks you are being that guy.

Jacksonian76

3/29/20 12:24pm

Your post has nothing to do with the OP. But thanks

StalwartBraveTrue

3/29/20 3:48pm

What is the one or the other choice? It's a tight rope we are walking

Jacksonian76

3/29/20 9:42pm

These things have happened before and will again.

StalwartBraveTrue

3/29/20 10:08pm

I am glad that we both now agree that it is not a myth that the elderly

Jacksonian76

3/29/20 10:52pm

There was never a disagreement on who bears the risk.

StalwartBraveTrue

3/29/20 11:37pm

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