I disagree. BYU shouldn't get caught up in the PR game.

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Nov 23, 2020
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Bobby Lee Swagger

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I think BYU missed a golden opportunity with this Washington fiasco

Medute

11/23/20 10:29am

I totally agree.

300BLK

11/23/20 10:31am

Good points, I agree

Alpi Gusto

11/23/20 10:31am

I generally agree. I am not sure Washington is automatically the best team on the schedule.

BYU '80

11/23/20 10:31am

I had the same thought...

icecougar

11/23/20 1:34pm

SDSU is still good but has lost close games

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:36pm

SDSU is bad

dizthewiz

11/23/20 2:58pm

I think you have to take into account Boise QB situation

Medute

11/23/20 3:55pm

BYU put up 51 pts regardless of who BSU had at QB or RB.

mcnasty

11/23/20 3:59pm

So I went to bed at halftime of that game

Medute

11/23/20 4:03pm

As the BSU head coach said, last year we beat them with our 3rd string QB.

Blue for Life

11/23/20 5:34pm

I don’t disagree. I’m saying Washington right now is better than that Boise

Medute

11/23/20 6:09pm

You're right, but who are we to say the players don't deserve Thanksgiving with

Magathisll

11/23/20 10:31am

My guess is the players want this more than anyone. They'd give up Thanksgiving

DoctorTimmy

11/23/20 10:36am

If they are allowing players to go home, expect to have a lot test positive.

Blue for Life

11/23/20 10:36am

This is my concern as well. Too many positives coming out of the holiday

rerunc

11/23/20 10:48am

Is there more virus in family homes than in college apartment complexes?

DMVCougar

11/23/20 1:23pm

Good point- my limited experience has been in my area that outbreaks have occure

rerunc

11/23/20 1:27pm

In this case yes. If the football team is being smart and not attending big

Blue for Life

11/23/20 5:32pm

Agree 100%, really too bad that someone there didn't think of this.

Blue for Life

11/23/20 10:33am

BYU needed to just add an out for themselves such as “if a better GUARANTEED game comes along we will take it.”

Dr MoBYU

11/23/20 10:33am

But I don’t think BYU wants to adhere to PAC12 testing guidelines foencovid

Dr MoBYU

11/23/20 10:34am

No one is considering the financial costs

Boring

11/23/20 12:05pm

What's the cost of missing NY6?

Z-Ute

11/23/20 12:27pm

Rational take...

Blue Ghost

11/23/20 10:35am

benefitted by hindsight...

icecougar

11/23/20 3:44pm

While I agree... to play that kind of PR game costs BYU money...

Coug

11/23/20 10:35am

How does that cost them money?

Blue for Life

11/23/20 10:37am

Testing, travel, lodging.

All-American

11/23/20 10:41am

But they already test, and if Washington cancels, then they have to pay for

Blue for Life

11/23/20 11:07am

The PAC 12's testing protocols are much more expensive.

All-American

11/23/20 11:16am

Their testing protocols are not in line with science or reason. Don’t go along with that crap

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:39pm

Exactly. Most of the other stipulations are a pain, the testing is a poison pill

Trent

11/23/20 1:43pm

I didn't say they were. I said they were more expensive.

All-American

11/23/20 5:34pm

that's if the game was guaranteed...

icecougar

11/23/20 3:47pm

If the PAC12 were serious about scheduling games with BYU, they'd have done so.

UCLACoug

11/23/20 10:39am

I agree, except for the part where BYU incurs a load of expenses

Westsider

11/23/20 10:39am

But from what I know, the team that cancels would then have to pay for it.

Blue for Life

11/23/20 11:08am

No, the Pac-12chumps want BYU to absorb the cost.

CougarThug

11/23/20 11:09am

Gotcha, thanks for the info.

Blue for Life

11/23/20 11:16am

You're not bowing down, you are doing EVERYTHING you can to play...

Z-Ute

11/23/20 12:31pm

Yeah you’re probably not biased. When Utah plays uw this weekend we will all know it was garbage from the start

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:40pm

Sure I'm biased and your not?

Z-Ute

11/23/20 2:25pm

Why are you on this board?

Blue for Life

11/23/20 11:11pm

NO ONE IN THE PAC-12 MADE A SERIOUS OFFER TO PLAY

DMVCougar

11/24/20 4:21am

If the main issue a fan has with something is BYU’s financial impact, the fan

SLIVER

11/23/20 1:34pm

It doesn’t matter at all what the fans think here. They aren’t voting and they aren’t the ones with a shortfall

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:42pm

The AD doesn't have the luxury you do of ignoring reality

Mitty

11/23/20 7:33pm

Except BYU is using a different test and would need to immediately change their

Corn Pop

11/23/20 10:39am

I have to say I agree. I feel we handled it somewhat poorly.

DraperCoug22

11/23/20 10:42am

No guarantee is a lousy offer and it's a bush league move to whine to press.

Art Director

11/23/20 10:42am

100% agree if it weren't Thanksgiving week

warp

11/23/20 10:46am

Yep very well said.

delux_247

11/23/20 10:46am

Yep

rggee

11/23/20 10:55am

Exactly. Can't argue any point here. Posted almost

CougaRR4L

11/23/20 10:58am

If Oregon or USC yeah, Washington doesn't move the needle at this point in time.

Mr. Scoobs

11/23/20 10:59am

UW may beat Oregon. No way to know that now.

jvquarterback

11/23/20 11:27am

Agree but timing is important in college football cause the system sucks.

Mr. Scoobs

11/23/20 11:33am

Did nobody listen to Holmoe's interview before the game Saturday?

TheLost

11/23/20 11:05am

Gotta say - well-reasoned post.

CatManBlue

11/23/20 11:25am

I don't think so. I think BYU looks pretty silly if the game gets canceled.

Ham

11/23/20 11:27am

Fair points, but I think you undervalue the significance of the financial impact/risk. They are already $20M short and

SingleStrapBackpack

11/23/20 11:37am

Politically speaking, you are correct...

TrueBlue67

11/23/20 11:52am

Easy fix here, just ask the players what they want to do.

CougaRR4L

11/23/20 12:03pm

Hate to ever agree with a Ute but this one actually has some brain function.

GangstaLean

11/23/20 11:54am

Yet he loiters in a BYU message board. 😉

DMVCougar

11/23/20 1:35pm

This is really easy to say when you aren't managing the finances

Mitty

11/23/20 12:22pm

BYU needs a ranked team to tip the needle. Utes and UW just don't do that

cougarnw

11/23/20 12:24pm

Problem is, once they beat a ranked team, that team is no longer ranked.

ochobeeguy

11/23/20 12:27pm

Unless it's a top 10 team also trying for a shot at the playoff

cougarnw

11/23/20 2:06pm

Agreed - Money is just money... it will come and go

Y not?

11/23/20 12:29pm

More than money at play

DMVCougar

11/23/20 2:10pm

💰 💴 💵 not worth the cash or headache to play them without a guarantee

Cosmo4life

11/23/20 12:29pm

How many schools are losing money this year?

Z-Ute

11/23/20 12:34pm

Make a contract like every other team then. If Washington cancels they don’t go

Cosmo4life

11/23/20 12:41pm

What else is UW supposed to do?

Z-Ute

11/23/20 1:10pm

Uw is in the pac. Of course they have something to prove. That’s ridiculous. The arrogance of your league knows no bound

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:47pm

Think if UW is undefeated there is any way they are left out of a NY6?

Z-Ute

11/23/20 2:16pm

They’d be left out of the playoffs since the PAC12 is not respected by the real

Cosmo4life

11/23/20 3:10pm

Read bud, says NY6!!

Z-Ute

11/23/20 7:49pm

You mean protect itself.

Z-Ute

11/23/20 2:22pm

Sign a contract. We will play you and won’t cancel to play Yewtah

Cosmo4life

11/23/20 3:09pm

Holmoe said Saturday they will not just take any game.

TheLost

11/23/20 12:37pm

Yes, that would have been the best move in hindsight. I don’t think they

akmewg

11/23/20 12:44pm

The one weakness in your post is whether or not something better is in the works. We don't know about that.

Byron McNertney

11/23/20 12:52pm

Holmoe said Saturday morning on pre-game that they weren’t looking to schedule

BlackBart

11/23/20 12:57pm

People should also realize that the kids have made travel plans (flights, etc)

rha1211

11/23/20 1:01pm

Boise St is better than UW

Hill4Heisman

11/23/20 1:12pm

Seen them both play, and that isn't true. UW would beat BSU by 10+.

Turnpike Lane

11/23/20 1:21pm

Must have been that game where they should have lost to OSU. Or was it that game against the doormat Arizona?

BYU '80

11/23/20 1:48pm

Both those schools would be the 2nd and 3rd toughest on our schedule. Maybe 1st toughest this year.

Turnpike Lane

11/23/20 2:28pm

I disagree. BYU shouldn't get caught up in the PR game.

Bobby Lee Swagger

11/23/20 1:13pm

The main problem is the Pac12 thinks they are much, much better of a conference

BDCpa

11/23/20 1:25pm

problem is, BYU always negotiates in good faith like most other schools. Udub...

icecougar

11/23/20 1:32pm

Spoken like a true bloated budget, PAC12 school.

CaughtForaTouchdown

11/23/20 1:36pm

Nothing like botching the first 3 months of the season and coming on here and talking to us about missed opportunities.

HeismanTy

11/23/20 1:56pm

The PAC12 royally screwed up and I have spoken about this often

Medute

11/23/20 2:37pm

That's fair. I didn't review your previous posts.

HeismanTy

11/23/20 3:00pm

I think your post was great and did bash BYU or gloat about the PAC.

Blue for Life

11/23/20 3:15pm

Most of these are things that people should already be saying. But they are

Shaka Laka

11/23/20 2:35pm

Says the Ute fan who doesn't want to be crushed by Washington.

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