The modern political baggage BYU brings ensures we'll never get in a P5

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Feb 24, 2021
12:07:54pm

mjmill All-American

A sad reality I accepted a long time ago. It's never going to happen.

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Ahhh.... the P5 expansion discussion gets dusted off by The Athletic. BYU #4 candidate for expansion

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

2/24/21 9:17am

RE: Ahhh.... the P5 expansion discussion gets dusted off by The Athletic. BYU

shoganai

2/24/21 9:18am

Shouldn't BYU be #1 if we're going off of money boost, fanbase, facilities, etc?

ldssdl

2/24/21 9:24am

If we're being honest with ourselves we aren't the most likely to be added by a

ZacSeljaas'Stache

2/24/21 9:25am

Unspoken baggage. Easier not to voice the baggage, unfortunately.

rcbyufan

2/24/21 9:26am

Hard to say without a spreadsheet from BamaCoug

Salami Karate

2/24/21 9:26am

That's what he actually says

LiveCoug

2/24/21 9:26am

BYU won't be admitted to the club. The limiters in today's social world are too

Archaea

2/24/21 9:57am

Tom Hansen has voiced the sad truth. Until we produce the proper volume of

Blue chunks

2/24/21 11:09pm

I get UCF and Cincy, but Boise is a mockery

krindorr

2/24/21 10:49am

RE: I get UCF and Cincy, but Boise is a mockery

NotTokolosh

2/24/21 5:33pm

UNLV and Colo St are Tier 1 Research Universities; Boise, BYU, SDSU aren't

krindorr

2/24/21 5:39pm

You can add UNR to that list of tier 1 research institutions.

Boring

2/24/21 8:58pm

Yeah, but Vegas is the 28th largest metro area in the US; Reno is #115

krindorr

2/24/21 10:01pm

Who are 1-3, I'm guessing Cincy, BSU and UCF?

pinolero

2/24/21 9:25am

RE: Who are 1-3, I'm guessing Cincy, BSU and UCF?

LiveCoug

2/24/21 9:26am

Which is stupid. Sure, BSU, UCF and Cinci have had recent success

BlueVU

2/24/21 9:28am

I'd pump the brakes... those other schools don't have baggage like BYU does.

letthewookieewin

2/24/21 9:30am

But they contradict the "research school" line given for BYU. BSU? Research? Yeah right!

Soupie

2/24/21 9:35am

UCF, Cincy, Houston are Tier 1 Research; but that's not a thing for Big 12 expan

krindorr

2/24/21 5:46pm

All that baggage both imaginary and marginal...

Pretorian

2/24/21 11:16am

And BSU is on a steady decline ever since Petersen left

Magathisll

2/24/21 9:30am

The one advantage they've had is great coaching

Gustav

2/24/21 9:38am

Cincinnati and UCF have location and recruiting access.

Doogal McCougar

2/24/21 9:33am

No P5 conf is going to touch BSU.

mudpupper

2/24/21 11:49am

Better PAC12/Big12 options than Boise

krindorr

2/24/21 12:18pm

Pac12 would rather have less members than take on BYU

Hill4Heisman

2/24/21 2:53pm

RE: Ahhh.... the P5 expansion discussion gets dusted off by The Athletic. BYU

Blueto

2/24/21 9:25am

This part is wrong

Gustav

2/24/21 9:36am

I would love to be added with UCF, but geography might make that tough

cougfan03

2/24/21 9:40am

Geography is the only worry with Cincinnati

Gustav

2/24/21 9:48am

Boise isn't P5 bound anytime soon

byukarl

2/24/21 9:47am

Neither are we. I have made peace with our independent status

kiyoshige

2/24/21 9:52am

RE: Boise isn't P5 bound anytime soon

WhyaskY?

2/24/21 9:58am

You are right about the second team being the issue in 2016.

Hoss Bonaventure

2/24/21 11:45am

In 2016, ESPN offered them more money to just stop talking about expansion.

DescendentCoug

2/24/21 12:26pm

RE: Ahhh.... the P5 expansion discussion gets dusted off by The Athletic. BYU

delux_247

2/24/21 10:19am

many of you hate the P5 conferences apparently so who cares, right?

run26

2/24/21 10:36am

Are you really that obtuse?

Turnpike Lane

2/24/21 11:06am

RE: Ahhh.... the P5 expansion discussion gets dusted off by The Athletic. BYU

Marc Spector

2/24/21 10:43am

We will never be invited to P5. Right or wrong,

300BLK

2/24/21 11:23am

My dream scenario would be BYU and GU getting invited to B12. GU fball would

ImuaKahuku

2/24/21 12:04pm

The modern political baggage BYU brings ensures we'll never get in a P5

mjmill

2/24/21 12:07pm

Beaten #1 & #2 twice in a row, pounded #3 and #5 in past year, and we're #4?

cosmohio

2/24/21 12:13pm

that's bc just like with Utah, TCU and others, win % is irrelevant to the expansion discussion

byujag

2/24/21 1:33pm

you're saying the UU's and TCU's performance on the field had nothing to do with

run26

2/24/21 1:40pm

that's exactly what I'm saying. Utah was not invited over BYU bc they had a BCS win

byujag

2/24/21 1:45pm

I hear you. But why then were they invited?

kiyoshige

2/24/21 5:20pm

It's all about high profile wins/rankings and end-of-season BCS/NY6 appearances

krindorr

2/24/21 1:53pm

UU had two undefeated seasons in the 2000s including their "we're #2" parade

run26

2/24/21 2:32pm

Its all about💰 if politics doesn’t outweigh💰Losing may matter but winning doesnt

DiamondMo

2/24/21 8:02pm

Ugh...expansion talk. Always a depressing subject for BYU fans. These days I

BlooCoog

2/24/21 12:28pm

Probably a good thing CB chat is a thing of the past.

lbmango

2/24/21 1:53pm

There is no discussion.

Lip Gallagher

2/24/21 3:10pm

Oh there will be discussion but only between the conferences and the media

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