Agree 2003 was bad. Just don't love the narrative here that BYU is "always"

Mar 4, 2021
12:18:58pm

Mr. Scoobs All-American

underseed because of something that happened nearly 2 decades ago. After experiencing the complete subjective crap the football postseason pulled on BYU, I'm grateful that basketball has a legitimate system.

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Mr. Scoobs

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Since 2007, BYU has 8 NCAA tourney trips. We have been overseeded once, “correct” seed 4 times, and underseeded 3 times.

TCuz Disgraced Rules President

3/4/21 11:39am

Where's the historical bracket matrix results and how far back do they go?

Indy Coug

3/4/21 11:45am

The oldest year I see is 2006, when BYU didn’t make the tourney.

TCuz

3/4/21 11:47am

Lot of people will key in on only one metric (like RPI) and assume there is a

Mr. Scoobs

3/4/21 11:47am

In 2003, BYU had an RPI of 19, a Kenpom of 24 and got a 12 seed, against a UConn team that had an RPI of 28 & Kenpom 22

Indy Coug

3/4/21 11:53am

Colgate is #9 in NET this season but has nowhere close to a tournament resume.

Mr. Scoobs

3/4/21 11:58am

2021 is not the year to prove/disprove the historical relationship of key metrics and seeding

Indy Coug

3/4/21 11:59am

There is correlation, but not causation. More important is wins over tourney

Mr. Scoobs

3/4/21 12:06pm

FYI, in 2012 the committee had us as a 12 seed on their S-Curve but bumped us

jreid191

3/4/21 11:48am

2012 was fun. Iona is our yewt

bigbossbyu

3/4/21 12:08pm

So on average, they are underseeded by .375 seeds?

4thand19

3/4/21 12:00pm

Only because you don't have years like 2003 and 2004 in the mix — otherwise, it'd be significantly worse

Indy Coug

3/4/21 12:05pm

That is also assuming RPI is the sole basis for the seeding expectations.

Mr. Scoobs

3/4/21 12:12pm

I believe in general the committee does a better job now than 15 years ago

Indy Coug

3/4/21 12:14pm

Agree 2003 was bad. Just don't love the narrative here that BYU is "always"

Mr. Scoobs

3/4/21 12:18pm

I remember that. The response given was that BYU was included as an at-large in

jreid191

3/4/21 12:39pm

Hasn't the excuse been the requirement for BYU to be in a Thursday-Saturday

Archaea

3/4/21 12:13pm

On average, aren't most teams seeded lower than their fanbases think is fair?

Hill4Heisman

3/4/21 12:39pm

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aaronmania

3/4/21 12:53pm

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