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Jul 13, 2021
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SpiffCoug
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Remember this time last year when people were comparing masks to the golden serpent? Good times. Get vaccinated people.
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What is your take on this vaccine podcast?
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:33pm
Hahahaha they lose me at “ivermectin is more safe and effective than the vaccine.”
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 7:35pm
Why? They act like it’s totally safe?
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:38pm
Safe? Usually. Effective? Not so much
Slim
7/13/21 7:39pm
I never looked into the claims that ivermectin is what helped India and Mexico earlier this year when they were all the
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:43pm
Things went horribly in India
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 7:45pm
And then got better, right? Why? The podcast suggests it was due to ivermectin use. Was that the case? I don't know.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:47pm
After more than a million people died
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 7:56pm
Right. But what did they do to stop millions from dying, unless there are still millions of Indians dying? Did they do
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:58pm
The disease hits in waves it followed that same pattern in India. Eventually it
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:03pm
Ok. So India did nothing?
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:04pm
They burned a lot of corpses
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:05pm
Oh, so burning the corpses is what stopped their wave?
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:06pm
You think it was ivermectin that stopped their wave? Lol.
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 9:20pm
Lol. No. I was asking if that is what it was as was claimed in the podcast, and if it wasn’t that, what was it?
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 9:43pm
“Available hosts” there are plenty of people still in India… the question is
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:34pm
With the shutdown those people weren’t interacting
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:36pm
India was locked down from the beginning
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:39pm
From 2020 until now? No.
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:42pm
RE: Right. But what did they do to stop millions from dying, unless there are
JOPE
7/13/21 8:05pm
It’s insane that people are arguing India as an example of what to do
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:07pm
Please don't think I'm trying to defend what India did. I'm trying to understand if they did anything that changed the
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:12pm
New York’s First Wave started at the beginning of March and was over by the end
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:21pm
So they did nothing. The virus did what it's going to do. All mitigation attempts are meaningless. The only thing that
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:10pm
They shut their country down
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:13pm
And they shut it down last year. So it looks like, all they "accomplished" is showing that only the vaccine can combat
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:16pm
Real shutdowns end the wave
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:17pm
Which isn't a feasible solution. Should have added that qualifier. Vaccines are the only feasible/realistic action
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:20pm
They even shutdown construction crews. Door to door salesmen were essential here
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:23pm
When we were getting slammed here people were telling me we should lock
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:37pm
Look at how different countries have faired depending on their response. Not
Jstak17
7/13/21 8:20pm
Fair enough. Ending international travel EARLY and never really reopening it can help as well.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:25pm
Or we could choose to vaccinate. Let’s go with that.
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:27pm
Yep. Is the Only thing that has both worked and is feasible.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 9:44pm
Look at California vs Florida…. Not much difference
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:41pm
Looking at different states isn’t going to tell you much. Because culturally
Jstak17
7/13/21 8:54pm
Completely untrue, Cal was locked down with a lot of people who were 100%
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:59pm
Things were different. But people gathered in California. Not withstanding
Jstak17
7/13/21 9:07pm
I believe the virus is an incredibly small and spreads primarily through the air
Pretorian
7/14/21 6:27am
I agree that the disease wasn’t spread much through large groups. But clearly
Jstak17
7/14/21 9:56am
I have not tried to convince others not to get the vaccine, only asked questions
Pretorian
7/14/21 11:47am
Yeah, I’m ready to be done with it too.
Jstak17
7/14/21 12:32pm
(400,000)
Benfica1
7/13/21 8:11pm
RE: (400,000)
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:14pm
I'm going by WorldMeter.
Benfica1
7/13/21 8:45pm
I wouldn’t trust Modi or China
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:53pm
How many people liv in India? What is the IFR there?
kotacoug
7/13/21 8:17pm
I’d like to see some in depth studies on ivermectin and covid-19. If it is as
Jstak17
7/13/21 8:05pm
RE: I’d like to see some in depth studies on ivermectin and covid-19. If
So it goes...
7/13/21 8:16pm
Interesting. Thank you.
Jstak17
7/13/21 8:37pm
Thank you for sharing this, this is what I was hoping to see
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:47pm
I think Weinstein is super smart, but he is dangerously close to a full-on anti-vaxxer.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:37pm
I’d definitely say he’s an antivaxxer
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:43pm
I'm still differentiating COVID anti-vaxxers with all anti-vaxxers. I'm not sure where he stands on other vaccines, like
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:45pm
Why differentiate? It's the same logic and same idiocy.
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 7:49pm
Except the covid vaccine is the first from mRNA and has zero history
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:51pm
False.
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 9:20pm
True
Pretorian
7/14/21 6:28am
Because people who aren't getting the COVID vaccine have gotten their children the "normal" set of vaccines.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:52pm
It's a (dumb) way of thinking.
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 8:03pm
Hey. It's not my way of thinking. But it's how I'm differentiating people who haven't demonstrated they won't get their
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:05pm
It’s a way of thinking that revolves around trusting hype and misinformation over numbers.
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 9:21pm
Would you say the same thing to people who refused to take the 1976 Swine Flu
SEUTAHCoug
7/13/21 10:28pm
I have. And the mRNA vaccines are not associated with GBS the way the 76 vaccine
hebercreeper
7/13/21 10:38pm
Would you criticize those who refused the swine flu vaccine back in 1976
SEUTAHCoug
7/13/21 11:08pm
I acknowledge that you are correct about the 1976 vaccine and that big
hebercreeper
7/13/21 11:19pm
Seems like you found what you were looking for
The Pope
7/13/21 7:37pm
tRNA doesn’t “build” proteins.
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 7:38pm
I just googled it and it seems quite closely related to the process
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:41pm
The video shows it’s role. It is a transfer molecule that brings specific amino
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 7:44pm
tRNA is a type of RNA molecule that helps decode an mRNA sequence into a protein
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:49pm
I literally gave you an animated video to watch and then I explained its role in
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 7:53pm
I literally googled a question and clipped the phrase, why be like this?
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:51pm
Because rather than watch a 4 minute video and learn what it actually does
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 9:02pm
Did you watch your own video? What is it they are making? A protein, and is tRNA
Pretorian
7/14/21 6:39am
Thanks for finally watching and listening
Charles Darwin
7/14/21 6:54am
You are literally arguing with Charles Darwin. Chew on that for a second.
TN_Coug
7/13/21 7:58pm
Charles who…? Never heard of her 😁
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:52pm
How would you propose using Ivermectin? Preemptively? Once one has symptoms? A
hebercreeper
7/13/21 7:41pm
I’m not doc, they are that’s why I bring this up
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:42pm
I'm a doc. It makes no sense.
hebercreeper
7/13/21 7:43pm
Same. Same.
Slim
7/13/21 7:44pm
I have no idea, why would they say that?
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:44pm
The better question isn't why he would say it, but rather, is it
hebercreeper
7/13/21 7:47pm
So who’s crazy and wrong?
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:53pm
The guy in your post.
hebercreeper
7/13/21 7:56pm
It's easier than you seem to think.
Byron McNertney
7/13/21 8:01pm
Yep. This one is easy. The COVID vaccine hesitancy reminds me of
hebercreeper
7/13/21 8:04pm
Remember this time last year when people were comparing masks to the golden serpent? Good times. Get vaccinated people.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:17pm
So Fouci is a prophet?
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:54pm
No, but this guy is.
hebercreeper
7/13/21 9:00pm
RE: No, but this guy is.
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 9:02pm
Indeed
Pretorian
7/14/21 11:49am
Hmmm...why, indeed?
Byron McNertney
7/13/21 7:50pm
I’m a pharmacist and agree. It’s worthless.
PharmCoug
7/13/21 8:09pm
Yeh, side effects are being suppressed....we paused a vaccine after less than 10 reports of blood clots. Dumb.
CSoul
7/13/21 7:46pm
He's NOT the inventor of mRNA Vaccine.
So it goes...
7/13/21 8:02pm
Yes, I thought that claim was a little nuts to start with…
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:55pm
The cancelling of those expressing vaccine safety concerns is terrible!
Fervent Cougar
7/13/21 8:08pm
He’s cookoo for Cocoa Puffs.
KingDave
7/13/21 8:10pm
Just having a hard time not despising CB haters throwing guilt, insults, shame..
carcoug
7/13/21 10:05pm
VAERS is a reporting system not a cause/effect system.
basc-coug
7/13/21 10:48pm
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