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Jul 13, 2021
10:05
:26
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carcoug
All-American
Just having a hard time not despising CB haters throwing guilt, insults, shame..
and arrogant virtue signaling of people looking at all sides of the argument and making decisions for themselves.
Freedom, Agency, and Liberty used to be respected and viewed with reverence. Now it's mocked. Calling evil good, and good evil.
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What is your take on this vaccine podcast?
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:33pm
Hahahaha they lose me at “ivermectin is more safe and effective than the vaccine.”
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 7:35pm
Why? They act like it’s totally safe?
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:38pm
Safe? Usually. Effective? Not so much
Slim
7/13/21 7:39pm
I never looked into the claims that ivermectin is what helped India and Mexico earlier this year when they were all the
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:43pm
Things went horribly in India
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 7:45pm
And then got better, right? Why? The podcast suggests it was due to ivermectin use. Was that the case? I don't know.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:47pm
After more than a million people died
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 7:56pm
Right. But what did they do to stop millions from dying, unless there are still millions of Indians dying? Did they do
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:58pm
The disease hits in waves it followed that same pattern in India. Eventually it
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:03pm
Ok. So India did nothing?
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:04pm
They burned a lot of corpses
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:05pm
Oh, so burning the corpses is what stopped their wave?
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:06pm
You think it was ivermectin that stopped their wave? Lol.
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 9:20pm
Lol. No. I was asking if that is what it was as was claimed in the podcast, and if it wasn’t that, what was it?
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 9:43pm
“Available hosts” there are plenty of people still in India… the question is
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:34pm
With the shutdown those people weren’t interacting
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:36pm
India was locked down from the beginning
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:39pm
From 2020 until now? No.
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:42pm
RE: Right. But what did they do to stop millions from dying, unless there are
JOPE
7/13/21 8:05pm
It’s insane that people are arguing India as an example of what to do
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:07pm
Please don't think I'm trying to defend what India did. I'm trying to understand if they did anything that changed the
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:12pm
New York’s First Wave started at the beginning of March and was over by the end
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:21pm
So they did nothing. The virus did what it's going to do. All mitigation attempts are meaningless. The only thing that
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:10pm
They shut their country down
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:13pm
And they shut it down last year. So it looks like, all they "accomplished" is showing that only the vaccine can combat
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:16pm
Real shutdowns end the wave
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:17pm
Which isn't a feasible solution. Should have added that qualifier. Vaccines are the only feasible/realistic action
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:20pm
They even shutdown construction crews. Door to door salesmen were essential here
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:23pm
When we were getting slammed here people were telling me we should lock
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:37pm
Look at how different countries have faired depending on their response. Not
Jstak17
7/13/21 8:20pm
Fair enough. Ending international travel EARLY and never really reopening it can help as well.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:25pm
Or we could choose to vaccinate. Let’s go with that.
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:27pm
Yep. Is the Only thing that has both worked and is feasible.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 9:44pm
Look at California vs Florida…. Not much difference
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:41pm
Looking at different states isn’t going to tell you much. Because culturally
Jstak17
7/13/21 8:54pm
Completely untrue, Cal was locked down with a lot of people who were 100%
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:59pm
Things were different. But people gathered in California. Not withstanding
Jstak17
7/13/21 9:07pm
I believe the virus is an incredibly small and spreads primarily through the air
Pretorian
7/14/21 6:27am
I agree that the disease wasn’t spread much through large groups. But clearly
Jstak17
7/14/21 9:56am
I have not tried to convince others not to get the vaccine, only asked questions
Pretorian
7/14/21 11:47am
Yeah, I’m ready to be done with it too.
Jstak17
7/14/21 12:32pm
(400,000)
Benfica1
7/13/21 8:11pm
RE: (400,000)
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:14pm
I'm going by WorldMeter.
Benfica1
7/13/21 8:45pm
I wouldn’t trust Modi or China
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 8:53pm
How many people liv in India? What is the IFR there?
kotacoug
7/13/21 8:17pm
I’d like to see some in depth studies on ivermectin and covid-19. If it is as
Jstak17
7/13/21 8:05pm
RE: I’d like to see some in depth studies on ivermectin and covid-19. If
So it goes...
7/13/21 8:16pm
Interesting. Thank you.
Jstak17
7/13/21 8:37pm
Thank you for sharing this, this is what I was hoping to see
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:47pm
I think Weinstein is super smart, but he is dangerously close to a full-on anti-vaxxer.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:37pm
I’d definitely say he’s an antivaxxer
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:43pm
I'm still differentiating COVID anti-vaxxers with all anti-vaxxers. I'm not sure where he stands on other vaccines, like
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:45pm
Why differentiate? It's the same logic and same idiocy.
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 7:49pm
Except the covid vaccine is the first from mRNA and has zero history
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:51pm
False.
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 9:20pm
True
Pretorian
7/14/21 6:28am
Because people who aren't getting the COVID vaccine have gotten their children the "normal" set of vaccines.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 7:52pm
It's a (dumb) way of thinking.
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 8:03pm
Hey. It's not my way of thinking. But it's how I'm differentiating people who haven't demonstrated they won't get their
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:05pm
It’s a way of thinking that revolves around trusting hype and misinformation over numbers.
Virginia Ute
7/13/21 9:21pm
Would you say the same thing to people who refused to take the 1976 Swine Flu
SEUTAHCoug
7/13/21 10:28pm
I have. And the mRNA vaccines are not associated with GBS the way the 76 vaccine
hebercreeper
7/13/21 10:38pm
Would you criticize those who refused the swine flu vaccine back in 1976
SEUTAHCoug
7/13/21 11:08pm
I acknowledge that you are correct about the 1976 vaccine and that big
hebercreeper
7/13/21 11:19pm
Seems like you found what you were looking for
The Pope
7/13/21 7:37pm
tRNA doesn’t “build” proteins.
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 7:38pm
I just googled it and it seems quite closely related to the process
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:41pm
The video shows it’s role. It is a transfer molecule that brings specific amino
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 7:44pm
tRNA is a type of RNA molecule that helps decode an mRNA sequence into a protein
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:49pm
I literally gave you an animated video to watch and then I explained its role in
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 7:53pm
I literally googled a question and clipped the phrase, why be like this?
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:51pm
Because rather than watch a 4 minute video and learn what it actually does
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 9:02pm
Did you watch your own video? What is it they are making? A protein, and is tRNA
Pretorian
7/14/21 6:39am
Thanks for finally watching and listening
Charles Darwin
7/14/21 6:54am
You are literally arguing with Charles Darwin. Chew on that for a second.
TN_Coug
7/13/21 7:58pm
Charles who…? Never heard of her 😁
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:52pm
How would you propose using Ivermectin? Preemptively? Once one has symptoms? A
hebercreeper
7/13/21 7:41pm
I’m not doc, they are that’s why I bring this up
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:42pm
I'm a doc. It makes no sense.
hebercreeper
7/13/21 7:43pm
Same. Same.
Slim
7/13/21 7:44pm
I have no idea, why would they say that?
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:44pm
The better question isn't why he would say it, but rather, is it
hebercreeper
7/13/21 7:47pm
So who’s crazy and wrong?
Pretorian
7/13/21 7:53pm
The guy in your post.
hebercreeper
7/13/21 7:56pm
It's easier than you seem to think.
Byron McNertney
7/13/21 8:01pm
Yep. This one is easy. The COVID vaccine hesitancy reminds me of
hebercreeper
7/13/21 8:04pm
Remember this time last year when people were comparing masks to the golden serpent? Good times. Get vaccinated people.
SpiffCoug
7/13/21 8:17pm
So Fouci is a prophet?
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:54pm
No, but this guy is.
hebercreeper
7/13/21 9:00pm
RE: No, but this guy is.
Charles Darwin
7/13/21 9:02pm
Indeed
Pretorian
7/14/21 11:49am
Hmmm...why, indeed?
Byron McNertney
7/13/21 7:50pm
I’m a pharmacist and agree. It’s worthless.
PharmCoug
7/13/21 8:09pm
Yeh, side effects are being suppressed....we paused a vaccine after less than 10 reports of blood clots. Dumb.
CSoul
7/13/21 7:46pm
He's NOT the inventor of mRNA Vaccine.
So it goes...
7/13/21 8:02pm
Yes, I thought that claim was a little nuts to start with…
Pretorian
7/13/21 8:55pm
The cancelling of those expressing vaccine safety concerns is terrible!
Fervent Cougar
7/13/21 8:08pm
He’s cookoo for Cocoa Puffs.
KingDave
7/13/21 8:10pm
Just having a hard time not despising CB haters throwing guilt, insults, shame..
carcoug
7/13/21 10:05pm
VAERS is a reporting system not a cause/effect system.
basc-coug
7/13/21 10:48pm
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