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Jul 19, 2021
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Skidmark
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Negotiation Tactic
BYU/Espn reached out about interest in a game in Vegas. ND saw this an opportunity to get out of a game at BYU. It is now using the media to better position itself. ND has no intention of coming to Provo.
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Notre Dame AD says that they will play BYU and BYU gets to decide whether it's a
BlooCoog
7/19/21 3:05pm
Compelling reason: play in 2022 or play in 2042
Greg Kite's 'stache
7/19/21 3:06pm
exactly, although 2042 seems premature.
BYUheaven
7/19/21 3:09pm
This is exactly the reason
IgnoreThem
7/19/21 4:34pm
But why is Vegas acceptable for ND in 2022 but Provo is not?
zsmooth
7/19/21 7:07pm
Significantly larger payday for ND in Vegas, more interesting trip for fans, etc
Greg Kite's 'stache
7/19/21 8:56pm
In summary: there isn’t a single reason ND would prefer to play in Provo over LV
IgnoreThem
7/19/21 9:03pm
Well, except for the contract.
zsmooth
7/20/21 7:32am
Contracts are always up for negotiation
Greg Kite's 'stache
7/20/21 7:59am
Not sure you’ve disagreed with what I said, but sounds great.
zsmooth
7/20/21 8:20am
Not necessarily disagreeing, but I think you have a very fixed view of a "contract"
Greg Kite's 'stache
7/20/21 9:14am
I was just flippantly responding to your statement that “there isn’t a single reason” for ND to play in Provo.
zsmooth
7/22/21 6:55am
Now you are just looking for things to complain about.
Sea Chicken
7/19/21 3:07pm
If this is all true, and TH chooses neutral, he’s back to being dead to me
maxpowers
7/19/21 3:07pm
And why would you take at face value what one side of the negotiating table puts out in public?
kccougar
7/19/21 3:09pm
What if Neutral means 2022 and Home means 2035?
ZacSeljaas'Stache
7/19/21 3:10pm
Then…I’ll walk back what I said. And also retain that ND are blowhards
maxpowers
7/19/21 3:13pm
The problem is, just like every other issue fans like to complain about, is
Lance71
7/19/21 5:37pm
or what if neutral means a high-profile game in a place like Vegas, Glendale, or Jerry World?
SingleStrapBackpack
7/19/21 3:18pm
We're not the Globetrotters. A game in Provo > dime a dozen "destination" games
reddead
7/19/21 3:47pm
Great venues for fan access and exposure, the stated goals of independence.
Doogal McCougar
7/19/21 4:14pm
A national spotlight game in a huge venue against ND is the opposite of a dime-a-dozen destination game. That is a once
SingleStrapBackpack
7/19/21 4:18pm
That's the thing, though. Texas don't give a rip about where that game is held
reddead
7/19/21 4:27pm
BYU could have a legit showing. This would not be a high interest game for ND fans.
Cougstreak
7/19/21 9:31pm
The when is my guess. If BYU wants it sooner, then Neutral. If BYU is willing to wait 20 years, they'll get that home gm
Turnpike Lane
7/19/21 3:07pm
Could he mean “we’ll play BYU in Vegas, but it’s up to BYU if they want to call
Kavorka
7/19/21 3:08pm
Negotiation Tactic
Skidmark
7/19/21 3:10pm
On the other hand, couldn't Holmoe similarly publicly respond, "Let's do Provo"
The Dark Knight
7/19/21 6:06pm
We have a great fan showing in Vegas. I think it’s a win if we play ND in Vegas
JohnnyC
7/19/21 3:13pm
One reason to play it in Vegas would be to sell the TV rights for a lot more $
BYUMizzou
7/19/21 3:14pm
I really want that Provo game, but if I knew they took the Las Vegas location for a huge pay day game, then cool.
Turnpike Lane
7/19/21 3:49pm
Yes, money could be a compelling reason. I also wonder what winning the game
BlooCoog
7/19/21 4:51pm
But in Provo they get nearly all of the ticket revenue and concessions (plus they probably sell more season
HarlemCoug
7/19/21 4:56pm
^^^What BYUMizzou said^^^
cougarmeister
7/19/21 3:20pm
If its in Vegas it better be more like 80/20 since it was supposed to be Provo
CaliWG
7/19/21 3:25pm
But, but, but, I'm offended it's not in Provo. Notre Dame are a bunch crooks
Doogal McCougar
7/19/21 3:49pm
Even if we play them in Vegas and BYU gets more money for doing it, they are still crooks.
byuluvr
7/19/21 6:48pm
Attendance might even skew towards ND in Vegas
HiLife
7/19/21 4:06pm
Here's why:
Hypnotoad
7/19/21 3:26pm
I could see Holmoe choosing either option, both for very good reasons.
(Private)
7/19/21 3:37pm
I would imagine the potential payout of playing in Vegas vs Provo is a factor
morningcalmcougar
7/19/21 3:42pm
If it's in Vegas....there will be a lot of ND fans.
WJCougar
7/19/21 3:48pm
"one game that they get to decide where its played And were going to honor that"
stealth
7/19/21 3:59pm
As others have said, you okay neutral so you can fill immediate needs
gww687
7/19/21 4:51pm
It also sets a risky precedent that national programs can cajole us into playing
BlooCoog
7/19/21 4:56pm
RE: It also sets a risky precedent that national programs can cajole us into
gww687
7/19/21 6:35pm
Oh how nice of them to let us have a home game considering they owe us a home ga
Dr MoBYU
7/19/21 5:40pm
Please do Vegas, I want to go to Caesars Palace buffet again.
Ten_Hour_Drives
7/19/21 10:08pm
You can go to Vegas anytime, even if BYU isn’t playing a game there. It’s always open.
zsmooth
7/20/21 7:33am
I would happily take 2
IceBlue
7/19/21 10:12pm
I’d be ok with BYU playing ND 15 times in Las Vegas. But never in South Bend until they come to Provo.
SpiffCoug
7/19/21 10:17pm
How would you feel about 2 in Vegas then
IceBlue
7/19/21 11:39pm
That’s not exactly what he said.
Blue2thebone
7/20/21 7:49am
The reality is BYU is the party holding up fulfillment of the contract
NYC and Japan
7/20/21 12:18pm
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