That is interesting. The QB has to be the leader and it sounds like Jake wasn't

Aug 4, 2021
1:36:19pm

Brigham All-American

quite a leader and Riley was. the QB needs to be able to command the locker room and the huddle. That "charisma" or "it" can't be taught. McMahon had it. Steve Young had it. Ryan Hancock had it. Ty Detmer had it. You just knew you were going to win.

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I've been thinking more about the QB situation...then I realized something

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 1:25pm

Jake lacked mental toughness and the cerebral command of the position. His

PhilPete

8/4/21 1:32pm

I remember his very first pass vs UW in the season opener in 2010..thats when I

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 1:47pm

Informative post. Jake never made an Active roster though. Signed to practice

CougGolf

8/4/21 1:33pm

Yeah I'm just thinking of some of the YouTube videos I've seen where he played

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 1:36pm

Another similar Jake story(but w/ far more NFL success) is Kyle Allen

wickedgame71

8/4/21 1:42pm

Freshmen qbs having success is much more common now(last 10+/- yrs)

wickedgame71

8/4/21 1:34pm

That is interesting. The QB has to be the leader and it sounds like Jake wasn't

Brigham

8/4/21 1:36pm

Which is really exposing a major issue...

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 1:54pm

A lot goes on behind the scenes. These young men are human.

Mabuhay Coug

8/5/21 12:28am

This is such a fantastic post.

Punk Philosopher

8/5/21 2:08am

Was that Germaine? If so, didn’t realize he was

Johnny Vatos

8/5/21 11:25am

I was thinking it was Mike Affleck. Great guy.

RUNBYU1

8/5/21 3:47pm

No, he was going to replace him

Mabuhay Coug

8/5/21 6:17pm

Mangum lost arm strength after his freshman year

D.T. Survivor

8/4/21 1:50pm

I think we have to consider the whole picture to understand Jake Heaps.

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 2:22pm

This is more an indictment of how bad our QBs have been

Hotlanta

8/4/21 1:54pm

I think it's an indication that is rather compelling

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 2:07pm

Wow, this is absolutely horrible logic

Lip Gallagher

8/4/21 2:12pm

Jake had a tale of two seasons his freshman year: the teams he played with a

Corn Pop

8/4/21 2:04pm

I mean, yeah, but do you remember how he performed vs Utah?

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 2:41pm

In the moment I thought he looked good, too, but those were my blue goggles.

Corn Pop

8/4/21 7:29pm

Heaps was a 7-on-7 star who struggled to read defenses and was immobile. His

Forzaitalia

8/4/21 6:25pm

Riley was affable, an organizer, a hard worker, and maximized his potential

shakarocks

8/4/21 2:12pm

That is entirely possible. I also think it's entirely possible that Riley, with

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 2:53pm

Going back to the bigger picture....

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 3:06pm

Riley was definitely more savvy.

shakarocks

8/4/21 4:29pm

This is true. I also don't believe that Riley was doing anything malicious at al

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 7:41pm

Well that and ultimately performance

shakarocks

8/4/21 10:56pm

This is true.

Punk Philosopher

8/5/21 3:09am

Thats one heck of a asterisk disclosure.

Go_Banana

8/4/21 2:15pm

Indeed it was hahah

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 2:38pm

You might be overrating how well all those freshmen played

donnerstag

8/4/21 5:48pm

Perhaps. However, I'd be interested in the data for all true freshman QB's ..

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 8:03pm

He lost confidence. He even sucked on

pappabear246

8/4/21 6:50pm

I don't think this issue was that the team LIKED Riley better, it was that Riley

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