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Aug 5, 2021
11:25:50am

Johnny Vatos Starter

Was that Germaine? If so, didn’t realize he was

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Johnny Vatos

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I've been thinking more about the QB situation...then I realized something

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 1:25pm

Jake lacked mental toughness and the cerebral command of the position. His

PhilPete

8/4/21 1:32pm

I remember his very first pass vs UW in the season opener in 2010..thats when I

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 1:47pm

Informative post. Jake never made an Active roster though. Signed to practice

CougGolf

8/4/21 1:33pm

Yeah I'm just thinking of some of the YouTube videos I've seen where he played

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 1:36pm

Another similar Jake story(but w/ far more NFL success) is Kyle Allen

wickedgame71

8/4/21 1:42pm

Freshmen qbs having success is much more common now(last 10+/- yrs)

wickedgame71

8/4/21 1:34pm

That is interesting. The QB has to be the leader and it sounds like Jake wasn't

Brigham

8/4/21 1:36pm

Which is really exposing a major issue...

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 1:54pm

A lot goes on behind the scenes. These young men are human.

Mabuhay Coug

8/5/21 12:28am

This is such a fantastic post.

Punk Philosopher

8/5/21 2:08am

Was that Germaine? If so, didn’t realize he was

Johnny Vatos

8/5/21 11:25am

I was thinking it was Mike Affleck. Great guy.

RUNBYU1

8/5/21 3:47pm

No, he was going to replace him

Mabuhay Coug

8/5/21 6:17pm

Mangum lost arm strength after his freshman year

8/4/21 1:50pm

I think we have to consider the whole picture to understand Jake Heaps.

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 2:22pm

This is more an indictment of how bad our QBs have been

Hotlanta

8/4/21 1:54pm

I think it's an indication that is rather compelling

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 2:07pm

Wow, this is absolutely horrible logic

8/4/21 2:12pm

Jake had a tale of two seasons his freshman year: the teams he played with a

Corn Pop

8/4/21 2:04pm

I mean, yeah, but do you remember how he performed vs Utah?

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 2:41pm

In the moment I thought he looked good, too, but those were my blue goggles.

Corn Pop

8/4/21 7:29pm

Heaps was a 7-on-7 star who struggled to read defenses and was immobile. His

Forzaitalia

8/4/21 6:25pm

Riley was affable, an organizer, a hard worker, and maximized his potential

shakarocks

8/4/21 2:12pm

That is entirely possible. I also think it's entirely possible that Riley, with

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 2:53pm

Going back to the bigger picture....

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 3:06pm

Riley was definitely more savvy.

shakarocks

8/4/21 4:29pm

This is true. I also don't believe that Riley was doing anything malicious at al

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 7:41pm

Well that and ultimately performance

shakarocks

8/4/21 10:56pm

This is true.

Punk Philosopher

8/5/21 3:09am

Thats one heck of a asterisk disclosure.

Go_Banana

8/4/21 2:15pm

Indeed it was hahah

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 2:38pm

You might be overrating how well all those freshmen played

donnerstag

8/4/21 5:48pm

Perhaps. However, I'd be interested in the data for all true freshman QB's ..

Punk Philosopher

8/4/21 8:03pm

He lost confidence. He even sucked on

pappabear246

8/4/21 6:50pm

I don't think this issue was that the team LIKED Riley better, it was that Riley

Thrill

8/5/21 4:09pm

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