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RE: Not saying it didn't happen — but people at Utah see the sky as the
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MrDaBaDe had lunch with a couple Yewt athletic department guys today. They spent quite a bit of time bemoaning the hit
ImBlueDaBaDe
All-American
11/17/21 6:57pm
This is an under-appreciated point of Big 12 inclusion.
stenso
11/17/21 6:59pm
I don't underappreciate it. I don't think it's possible to over appreciate it
ratherberoping
11/17/21 8:35pm
RE: MrDaBaDe had lunch with a couple Yewt athletic department guys today. They spent quite a bit of time bemoaning the
2FarGone
11/17/21 7:02pm
Not saying it didn't happen — but people at Utah see the sky as the limit — not falling
TFL
11/17/21 7:04pm
Meh, low level guys angling for $, maybe just telling him what they thought he wanted to hear.
ImBlueDaBaDe
11/17/21 7:07pm
You seem to be forgetting that BYU is the PAC South Champion already.
m0resn0w
11/17/21 7:09pm
Yep, supremacy of the pac12 south this year has already been decided, and it ain’t Utah.
valcorger
11/17/21 10:34pm
RE: Not saying it didn't happen — but people at Utah see the sky as the
panacablue
11/17/21 7:12pm
Clean sweep of the south you say?
CBaass
11/17/21 7:18pm
Yep. UCLA, USC, CU, ASU, AZ. 14+ point average MOV.
TFL
11/17/21 8:02pm
You’re conveniently leaving off your lone south defeat
WP17
11/17/21 8:34pm
Maybe you are trolling about the BYU game, but their one PAC loss
Florwood
11/17/21 8:58pm
RE: Maybe you are trolling about the BYU game, but their one PAC loss
WP17
11/17/21 9:06pm
It's more about the trend. If Utah wins the South...again...and starts off as the favorite again
TFL
11/18/21 1:49pm
"Pac-12 supremacy" =
MantisTobaggan
11/17/21 7:45pm
Lol. Yeah. Oregon and Utah have been the top 2 programs the last several years. Oregon is #3
TFL
11/17/21 8:01pm
Just a joke just a joke.
MantisTobaggan
11/17/21 9:35pm
True big game and UU has turned it around, but UO is a strawman propped up by CF
RexburgCougar
11/19/21 9:19am
And yet, you're all fighting for 2nd place in the PAC10.2 South behind BYU...
TrueBlue67
11/17/21 7:56pm
Fair enough. BYU has been awesome this year. But it's like losing to Oregon State
TFL
11/17/21 8:03pm
That also isn’t a rivalry game . . . Or are they rivals like USC???
LakeshowCougs
11/17/21 10:16pm
Kinda like the good 'ol days in the WAC/MWC... everyone thought they were BYU's
TrueBlue67
11/18/21 5:07pm
BYU guys are kidding themselves if they don't think the
TFL
11/18/21 6:16pm
And he was fired
BYU Grounds
11/18/21 6:19pm
Yeah how many times has Utah been to the Rose bowl? Doesn’t any team that wants
LakeshowCougs
11/18/21 6:58pm
How many schools have won their conference in the last 5 years?
TFL
11/18/21 7:05pm
Speaking of “clean sweep of the south…”
Metallicat
11/17/21 8:32pm
Great win for BYU. But 1 loss out of 10 games isn't a sign of doom for the program. It's just
TFL
11/17/21 8:38pm
Nah, it's 2
cougforever
11/17/21 11:18pm
Lander Barton is a Ute through and through, there was never a doubt he was going
BYU Grounds
11/17/21 8:46pm
Now try to explain away our 4* QB from SO Cal and our soon to be 4* RB from FL
Roghai
11/18/21 5:20am
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CougarBored1001
11/18/21 11:16am
He's already a 4* on Rivals
DryFlyUte
11/18/21 1:07pm
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CougarBored1001
11/18/21 5:58pm
And yet the Rivals rating is used by 247
DryFlyUte
11/18/21 6:37pm
Yep, and 24/7 hasn’t updated Glover’s rating since his Junior season. They’ll
Roghai
11/19/21 6:50am
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CougarBored1001
11/19/21 9:32am
Umm. Utah isn't having a down year in recruiting
DryFlyUte
11/19/21 10:33am
Frosh?
Backcountry
11/17/21 9:13pm
serious question: why do you think landing Barton was a huge feat? isn't he
yahtzee
11/17/21 10:10pm
Because he is a fantastic player. Joining a terrific class
TFL
11/17/21 10:15pm
I get that he's a fantastic player, but is it a 'huge feat' if he's yours to
yahtzee
11/17/21 10:27pm
Well, think about the reverse situation. What if they didn’t? The reason he committed
TFL
11/17/21 10:40pm
maybe i'm not following you. are you suggesting it wouldn't be a big loss if
yahtzee
11/17/21 11:03pm
What you’re missing is the response to OPs typical CB sky is falling at Utah
TFL
11/17/21 11:15pm
I already stated I wasn't disputing utah is recruiting well.
yahtzee
11/17/21 11:28pm
I hear what you are saying, but do you have a Ryan Smith?
Loafer
11/18/21 12:09am
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CougarBored1001
11/18/21 1:09am
Okay. Well, from what you can gather in Utah recruiting. What makes you think the program is headed to decline?
TFL
11/18/21 1:50pm
I think most here saw the bad start and say the whole program is in decline.
SoBlueitHurts
11/19/21 7:22am
That's an authentic take
TFL
11/19/21 3:58pm
Honest question here. Do you see Whittingham retiring in the next 5 years and..
BYU Grounds
11/19/21 4:16pm
It depends
TFL
11/19/21 6:01pm
How is Run26 doing these days?
BIG XII Coug
11/17/21 7:05pm
RE: How is Run26 doing these days?
John Doe
11/17/21 8:13pm
We need to focus on beating our conference rivals in recruiting not some school
Blueto
11/17/21 7:07pm
The sudden uptick in BYU recruiting has been a bit surprising to me. I certainly
Soy Celeste
11/17/21 7:12pm
Show that things being mostly equal, BYU is more desirable
boogers
11/17/21 7:16pm
The gap in recruiting hasn’t changed one bit comparing last year to this year..
Roghai
11/18/21 5:25am
Makes BYU beating Utah squarely even more embarrassing, doesn’t it?
Soupie
11/18/21 6:49am
Not at all. Even with a talent advantage, only losing one in the last ten games
Roghai
11/18/21 8:33am
Soupie
BYU Grounds
11/18/21 5:00pm
Wait and see.
boogers
11/18/21 8:49am
I don’t think it’s just a b12 thing. We also have a coach players want
Don Carlton
11/17/21 9:14pm
BYU average recruit rating for 2022: 83.20 2021: 83.86. For reference, Utah’s
Roghai
11/18/21 5:24am
Both teams are on the rise. Don’t know why people think Ut fans are feeling down
idkwhatiexpected
11/17/21 8:04pm
Lol Utah’s average recruit rating so far: 87.15. Last year: 87.27
Roghai
11/18/21 5:19am
Uh oh! Ute-fan-on-CB convention going on here
ACrop
11/18/21 6:39am
did you know that 84% of Rogaine's stats are made up on the spot?
yahtzee
11/18/21 8:29am
Here you go.
Roghai
11/18/21 8:39am
I was joking. but thanks. BTW, I didn't know Utes were 10th in the Pac12
yahtzee
11/18/21 8:55am
Only because Utah always fills out their class later than everyone else. Happens
Roghai
11/18/21 8:57am
hmmm. they ended up 5th last year. Middle of the pac of the 5th best fb conf
yahtzee
11/18/21 9:01am
Where would BYU have landed?
Roghai
11/18/21 9:03am
if we were in the Pac12? no way to know. we got into a better conference.
yahtzee
11/18/21 9:04am
Byu only finished ahead of one PAC 12 team in recruiting last year: Arizona
Roghai
11/18/21 9:08am
I know it's easy to get confused b/c BYU may win the Pac12 title
yahtzee
11/18/21 9:09am
How in the world did we beat all those Pac 12 teams? Like you said yourself
RenoCoug
11/18/21 11:15am
You’re better coached than all the PAC 12 teams you play this season besides
Roghai
11/19/21 6:52am
We were better coached early in the season
SoBlueitHurts
11/19/21 7:12am
We're not talking about history we live in there and now 26-17, its been 800 day
BYU Grounds
11/19/21 3:50pm
So that average number is subject to drop (or maybe rise) once the class is
SoBlueitHurts
11/18/21 10:05am
Yep, but the sample is large enough that we know Utah isn’t having this big made
Roghai
11/18/21 10:12am
My source: 24/7 sports’s composite rating which averages the ratings of all the
Roghai
11/18/21 8:35am
WOW man, your comments are mistimed at best.
Zoobieman
11/18/21 9:48am
This sounds very much like the things MrDaBaDe heard at lunch.
ImBlueDaBaDe
11/18/21 9:59am
No, it sounds like what you’re saying is made up. BYU hasn’t been beating Utah
Roghai
11/18/21 10:10am
Hahahahaha you’re clueless. Do you really want me to come back to this when Utah
Roghai
11/18/21 10:00am
Come back to this thread? No. But discuss Utah's success when it happens
Zoobieman
11/18/21 11:10am
Doesn’t account for 1/2 the team entering the transfer portal.
Romex
11/18/21 6:50am
What are you even talking about? I’m clearly talking football
Roghai
11/18/21 8:37am
Take it either way, Football or Basketball. Or are you referring to players just
Romex
11/18/21 8:57am
That’s not happening in football more than normal
Roghai
11/18/21 9:04am
RE: That’s not happening in football more than normal
Romex
11/18/21 5:09pm
Okay. Whatever you say, #2.
Megamind
11/18/21 8:39am
You aren't taking into account people that have committed to BYU since the BIG12
YaHerdWithPerd
11/18/21 8:46am
Lol how much do you want to bet? I follow recruiting pretty closely and am
Roghai
11/18/21 8:55am
Who’s that? They honestly don’t have much room to recruit with all the frosh
idkwhatiexpected
11/18/21 2:04pm
BYU will hopefully get a boost from big 12 affiliation, I don’t see how U has
idkwhatiexpected
11/18/21 2:03pm
Our only 2 commits since the announcement average .895. Not to mention a .97
YaHerdWithPerd
11/18/21 8:50am
Lol those guys were going to byu either way
Roghai
11/18/21 8:56am
ah, so we just discount the guys like Barton who were "going to utah either way"
yahtzee
11/18/21 8:58am
We’re discussing BYU having some supposed big jump in recruiting after the Big12
Roghai
11/18/21 9:02am
I don't think it's irreverent at all. It's just sports, not religion dude.
yahtzee
11/18/21 9:05am
Moa was literally committed to Utah. What about Collin Chandler who was a lock
YaHerdWithPerd
11/18/21 11:07am
Moa decommited from Utah because of a disagreement on position he would play
DryFlyUte
11/18/21 4:44pm
Lol don’t bring up a guy like Moa when you clearly don’t know the backstory
Roghai
11/19/21 6:56am
You can't stop there. Tell us all what the backstory is please.
Wingnut
11/19/21 6:57am
ESPN 700 talked about Moa's decommitment from Utah
DryFlyUte
11/19/21 9:18am
Good for them.
Thrill
11/18/21 9:11am
Utah's class is ranked in the 80s nationally. . .BYU in the 70s. . .
MyTwoCents
11/18/21 9:14am
That’s because it weighs the total number of commits. BYU has filled out their
Roghai
11/18/21 9:22am
Again, 90% of our class was signed before we got into the BIG 12. we don't know
YaHerdWithPerd
11/18/21 11:11am
Do they weigh the Ute commits before or after they visit the west concourse?
yahtzee
11/18/21 2:39pm
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Zoobieman
11/18/21 9:27am
it'll take time before changes are seen in these metrics
Hill4Heisman
11/18/21 12:07pm
BYU having success and rising, sure. Doesn't mean Utah is 'declining'.
seacougar
11/18/21 12:38pm
Wait, we got Rising?
ImBlueDaBaDe
11/18/21 12:42pm
He was a non committable offer. The Utes have even better QB for next year 4.3
BYU Grounds
11/18/21 6:22pm
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