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Nov 28, 2021
5:44:59pm

ChinaFan All-American

not a poster child for player development? yet with our schedule, and playing all those YOUNG players, he still put

together enough defense to win 10 games. Seems like a spurious argument to me when he did exactly what you say he didn't. They got players to rise to the occassion.

Go back and look at how many seasons EVER, including the WAC, MWC years that BYU had 10 win seasons... And with only a couple seasons, you'll find NONE of those teams had injuries the like we saw, and definitely couldn't have filled the holes any better.

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Tuiaki has been helping us win with a defense put together with duct tape

Big12Yfan

11/28/21 5:10pm

True. Unfortunately fans will fan. People used to complain about Chow's offense.

Benfica1

11/28/21 5:12pm

And called for the ousting of Anae for Doman! CB has a bad record.

NorCal_Coug

11/28/21 5:14pm

False. He has had nfl talent and still had the same issuea. Try again.

11/28/21 5:22pm

Please try again.

LyleLanley

11/28/21 5:29pm

RE: False. He has had nfl yalwnt and srill had 5h3 same issuea. Tey again.

Cougz19

11/28/21 7:59pm

My Urim & Thumim says, False, He had the same problem with NFL talent. Try again

sah22

11/28/21 8:28pm

Chow was like Oregeron. Only good with NFL talent. More talent than coaching.

Bobmarleyjr

11/28/21 5:27pm

He was a good OC at BYU, great at NC St, great a USC...

Benfica1

11/28/21 5:31pm

Bad at Titans, Utah, UCLA, etc. it means it wasn’t good. Couldn’t innovate

Bobmarleyjr

11/28/21 6:59pm

Point was: Chow was good at BYU and for the next 10 years after leaving.

Benfica1

11/28/21 7:34pm

5 yrs. Was he good or was it the talent? How can you say it was him not talent?

Bobmarleyjr

11/28/21 9:55pm

Both. It has always been a combo of both.

Benfica1

11/28/21 10:14pm

If it needs talent then it’s talent. Good coaches can make any team better

Bobmarleyjr

11/29/21 10:51pm

And those coaches you mentioned have had meh to awful years. So.... move on.

Benfica1

11/30/21 7:18am

Chows offenses were good. Not bottom 30-40 in the country

BYU '80

11/28/21 5:31pm

Not without NFL. Even in NFL it wasn’t good or Utah, UCLA, UH, etc.

Bobmarleyjr

11/28/21 6:59pm

His scheme depends a lot on LB'ers. Unfortunately, that position group took a

SUAVO

11/28/21 5:14pm

Isn’t he responsible for developing his own scholarship players?

BYU '80

11/28/21 5:32pm

Didn't say he wasn't, but it shows the drop off in depth when we have to use it

SUAVO

11/28/21 5:36pm

🤮🤮🤮

Kale

11/28/21 5:15pm

Too much Kale?

LyleLanley

11/28/21 5:17pm

(way to much kale)

Benfica1

11/28/21 5:21pm

don't forget the bubble gum. I have to say that I was proud of the defense yesterday. They came up with some hard

ChinaFan

11/28/21 5:17pm

Especially in the 4th. USC had gone 31 plays for 204 yards 17 points before the D forced a 3-&-out.

Spiff

11/28/21 5:20pm

The holding call was huge.

BYU '80

11/28/21 5:45pm

That was the one and only reason our d stopped them on that drive.

No touching

11/28/21 5:47pm

That’s an insult to the players that work their tails off for your entertainment

11/28/21 7:00pm

It's true, they were able to make the tackles and get a 3rd down stop when USC had to pick up 20 for a first down instea

No touching

11/28/21 7:08pm

Good defensive effort forced the hold.

Spiff

11/28/21 5:49pm

They were giving good defensive effort all game.

No touching

11/28/21 7:09pm

People are nuts for not accepting a bottoms 30-40 defense and wanting change

BYU '80

11/28/21 5:33pm

My guess is that most seasons we only see Baylor one time.

Spiff

11/28/21 6:21pm

I'm not saying I wouldn't like someone else, a real defensive genius, I just don't think you can get one that fits BYU &

ChinaFan

11/28/21 6:22pm

Don’t tell one boomer this

LyleLanley

11/28/21 5:18pm

Ruiaki has out th3 same scheme and bad playcalling on 5he foedl for 6 years

11/28/21 5:22pm

Can't be that bad. BYU has won the Time of Possession battle the last four games.

Spiff

11/28/21 5:23pm

Never change CarolinaUte. Never change.

LyleLanley

11/28/21 5:29pm

Tuiaki’s defense works IF you have NFL talent on D-line and at CB

bruincoug

11/28/21 5:22pm

So he needs to develop the players better

BYU '80

11/28/21 5:34pm

I mostly agree, but I do think he would benefit himself by mixing in a few more edge blitzes early or late in drives to

Trent

11/28/21 5:23pm

His defensive style allows more plays which equals more chances for injuries...

Coug

11/28/21 5:25pm

The defense faced almost exactly the NCAA average plays per game.

Indy Coug

11/28/21 5:28pm

Then Indy comes with data.

Trent

11/28/21 5:29pm

LOL Coug RN

Abe Froman

11/28/21 5:52pm

Plays per game would rank them around 65 in the country.

Coug

11/28/21 5:55pm

Out of 130… so literally exactly in the middle.

k-ace

11/28/21 6:15pm

Raise the banner.

Coug

11/28/21 6:19pm

Your argument was his defense leads to more plays, which leads to more injuries.

k-ace

11/28/21 6:30pm

That's true... I was wrong...

Coug

11/28/21 6:31pm

Surely this time you've got data to back up your claim.

Abe Froman

11/28/21 6:58pm

I guess a slight counter would be that there are only about 65 P5’s. But guessing there are lot’s of G5’s ahead of us.

Trent

11/28/21 6:47pm

Of only those 65 teams...

Coug

11/28/21 6:18pm

Where should a top-15 team rank? Is being avg a drag on the team?

BYU'01

11/28/21 6:57pm

Hadn’t thought of that, but makes sense. Tough to argue more plays equals more chance of an injury.

Trent

11/28/21 5:28pm

Honest questions. The defensive woes cannot be all injury related, right?

Borg

11/28/21 5:29pm

You are remembering, that if you erase covid year, we are playing mostly Sophmores, and a few Juniors, and those guys

ChinaFan

11/28/21 5:34pm

Only at lb. not a ton of defensive injuries elsewhere. Here and there guys miss

BYU '80

11/28/21 5:31pm

Ellis and Ah You were big hits to the secondary. Even when Ah You was available

SUAVO

11/28/21 5:35pm

Ellis hasn’t played all year and there are a lot of capable corners

BYU '80

11/28/21 5:43pm

Was still a big hit to the secondary. Anytime a starter in fall camp goes down

SUAVO

11/28/21 6:10pm

not a poster child for player development? yet with our schedule, and playing all those YOUNG players, he still put

ChinaFan

11/28/21 5:44pm

Or the offense baled them out a lot

BYU '80

11/28/21 5:46pm

yeah, because if team only has offense they can win a football game.. NOT... the D did their job, got the offense the

ChinaFan

11/28/21 5:57pm

His scheme makes it so you don't have to depend on player development to achieve

SUAVO

11/28/21 6:09pm

Defensive line was very beat up as well. Losing Lorenzo Fauteau was a huge loss.

TempeCoug

11/28/21 5:36pm

Zo wasn’t even a full time starter. Who else on the dl?

BYU '80

11/28/21 5:44pm

Do we need to improve talent in the Dline well of course but our hands were

TempeCoug

11/28/21 6:10pm

Thank you for a rational Tuiaki post...

Ursas Puma

11/28/21 6:44pm

This defense gives up 24.25 pts per game. Not stellar. Pretty much average.

Count Cougar

11/28/21 6:52pm

Yet nobody seems to try and hire him away for more money or a HC job. Weird.

jrifkin48

11/28/21 7:46pm

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