Many people, even here on this board, proclaim “truth” related to unobjective

Jan 24, 2023
7:59:14am

Ozymandias All-American

items. When people are bearing testimony, this is a very clear example of telling “their truth”. My guess is, that doesn’t bother you so much.

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Ozymandias

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"my truth" or "your truth" is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. sorry.

Supercoug

1/24/23 6:47am

When you accept that there is no objective truth, life becomes much simpler

Indy Coug

1/24/23 6:48am

In the short run.

Blue Print

1/24/23 6:53am

Whatever serves my interests in the here and now

Indy Coug

1/24/23 6:57am

I’m glad people are starting to see it my way.

WDaddy

1/24/23 7:39am

there is no spoon

demon_llama

1/24/23 8:05am

Good point. However, I can see the opposite as well - if one accepts that there

LeGrandBleu

1/24/23 8:29am

But that cannot be truth. Things are or they are not. They were or they were not

TailgateU

1/24/23 1:25pm

How you have explained it is the best way IMO. On the flip, I had had some very

Ode to Hoy

1/24/23 10:14pm

Yeah, 3 terms people need to understand are truth, belief, and opinion.

TailgateU

1/25/23 9:36am

It's a terrible phrase ... let's please go back to "my opinion."

sakar12

1/24/23 6:50am

Pretty shocked it's a U of U guy thumbs-downing a post about lack of thinking.

Supercoug

1/24/23 6:55am

There is some truth to it though. I agree it is used to just justify anything a

Ozymandias

1/24/23 6:57am

maybe "my viewpoint" or "my perspective" might be better then???

rotorhead

1/24/23 7:00am

Isn't that understanding someone's perspective? There's just a

Supercoug

1/24/23 7:00am

It is understanding that they take in truth differently than I do.

Ozymandias

1/24/23 7:02am

Agreed. "Truth" is just so absolute sounding.

sakar12

1/24/23 7:02am

i was trying to make the same point - call your perspective your perspective

rotorhead

1/24/23 7:14am

But then there is no truth because we can only observe truth from our imperfect

Ozymandias

1/24/23 7:56am

My experience or opinion are better, or just coming out and calling it anecdotal

vagabonder

1/24/23 7:00am

That's true, but possibly the most dangerous thing in the history of the world is people being completely certain that

Byron McNertney

1/24/23 7:00am

are these two things mutually exclusive?

Supercoug

1/24/23 7:01am

No. That's why I started by saying your post is true.

Byron McNertney

1/24/23 7:03am

then we probably agree

Supercoug

1/24/23 7:04am

They just mean "my perspective or opinion" but they want to make sure you can't disagree.

Ted Lasso

1/24/23 7:08am

And others call their perspective or opinion "THE truth."

Byron McNertney

1/24/23 7:13am

There’s a fundamental difference between “the truth” and “my truth.”

Blue Print

1/24/23 7:33am

Many people, even here on this board, proclaim “truth” related to unobjective

Ozymandias

1/24/23 7:59am

What absolute nonsense.

Blue Print

1/24/23 8:59am

Lol. Strawmen everywhere. Where did I ever say or even imply that I object to

Ozymandias

1/24/23 10:04am

Keep digging.

Blue Print

1/24/23 10:25am

I am open to everyone sharing their truth. You are the one who is not. What am I

Ozymandias

1/24/23 10:54am

I don't care about people sharing their truth. I object to them requiring that

Blue Print

1/24/23 11:03am

That isn’t what you seemed to imply in your first post on this thread.

Ozymandias

1/24/23 11:18am

What?

Blue Print

1/24/23 1:00pm

Haha, that is exactly what I had to do. You keep moving the goal posts in the

Ozymandias

1/24/23 1:27pm

So, you're a student of the Derek Zoolander school I see.

Blue Print

1/24/23 3:03pm

Lol. That is your truth I suppose.

Ozymandias

1/24/23 3:59pm

You go find two lines where I ever contradicted myself in this thread.

Blue Print

1/25/23 9:03am

Further changing the argument to bring in items that haven’t been discussed

Ozymandias

1/25/23 9:48am

And as as I wrote in my post, many use the term "the truth" the same way others use "my truth."

Byron McNertney

1/24/23 8:04am

No, I don’t think so. A person who understands personal perspective would not

King of Y

1/24/23 11:40pm

No need to apologize.

Lifer

1/24/23 7:37am

RE: "my truth" or "your truth" is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. sorry.

Doogal McCougar

1/24/23 8:42am

Thought a lot about this over the years. Trouble is, “reality” is complex. Why?

canofpicante

1/24/23 12:36pm

ACTUALLY:) Iirc, in quantum mechanics, two observers can look at the same

Undefeated

1/24/23 11:15pm

You might think this is crazy. But I think you are right. I’ve heard many times

canofpicante

1/25/23 8:44am

Ha. My dad just told me the other day that I think too much. If I had time right

Undefeated

1/25/23 8:56am

In short, I believe that the behavior of electrons, literally being everywhere

canofpicante

1/25/23 10:07am

Now I see.

Undefeated

1/25/23 11:01am

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