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Jan 29, 2023
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Tmoney1969
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BYU Did quite well w a PAC 12 heavy schedule last year not as far apart
As you wish we were. And BYU is just getting started.
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Cheese Fries (and other Ute fans) since you would like this to be a Utah message board, can you please respond to this?
RdF3
Inactive user
1/29/23 10:26am
How long has it been since the Yewts beat BYU in football or basketball?
HarlemCoug
1/29/23 10:28am
2019 for both
CougarGuy84
1/29/23 10:31am
How many kids alive now weren't even born way back then? Millions!
BYUtka
1/29/23 10:39am
RE: How many kids alive now weren't even born way back then? Millions!
CougarGuy84
1/29/23 10:40am
RE: Cheese Fries (and other Ute fans) since you would like this to be a Utah
Turnpike Lane
1/29/23 10:28am
Ouch- just the facts. I’d still love to have that record for BYU eve
SouthernBlueBlood
1/29/23 10:29am
Yeah, but how many "quality losses" do they have during this span.....🤣😂
jtm0001
1/29/23 10:37am
🌹🌹🌹🐊🐊🐊🌹🌹🌹
BYUtka
1/29/23 10:39am
All true but I would love to keep beating them on the field. I’d be
FieroCoug
1/29/23 10:38am
Bowl performance and OCC have been disappointing for Utah for sure
Cheese Fries
1/29/23 10:43am
You responded all about byu. This has nothing to do with byu. This is about Utah being wildly overrated.
RdF3
1/29/23 10:46am
Isn’t this BYU board?
Cheese Fries
1/29/23 10:48am
You wanted to talk Utah let’s talk Utah. You didn’t counter any points. So you agree and can’t refute Utah has been
RdF3
1/29/23 10:50am
I’d rather be positive and excited for future of both schools
Cheese Fries
1/29/23 10:59am
Your actions speak otherwise.
BYUtka
1/29/23 11:01am
Oh, NOW you notice.
BYUtka
1/29/23 10:58am
A little bit of sarcasm maybe 🙂
Cheese Fries
1/29/23 11:00am
You can't counter a point about the Pac12 being weak by saying you won the Pac12
runnincoug
1/29/23 10:59am
1/3 of the conference is top 15. 1/2 is ranked. 1/2 is going to be ranked next preseason. Just because there
TFL
1/29/23 7:21pm
that's kind of the point everyone's making ... that the Pac12 is overrated.
runnincoug
1/29/23 9:45pm
I get it now. Yeah, so the computers, all 3 polls and multiple independent rating systems are all wrong and BYU fans
TFL
1/30/23 2:26pm
Put biased data in, you get biased data out. Of course the computer has them
BYUtka
1/30/23 2:34pm
it's interesting how difficult this concept seems to be to grasp.
runnincoug
1/30/23 2:40pm
LOL. So the data is biased? Nah...we all see the same things man. There's the SEC and everybody else
TFL
1/30/23 4:26pm
"Everybody else" beats out of Conference teams... except the PAC 12...
BYUtka
1/30/23 5:11pm
ND, Wisky, MSU, UNC, Florida, Texas — BYU, both MWC div winners. You don't know what you're talking about
TFL
1/30/23 5:18pm
Oh, they have one or two out of conference wins over the past few years? You are
BYUtka
1/30/23 5:33pm
I just listed 10 wins this year. 2019 they were 6-1 against BIG and SEC. That means the P2 was 1-6 against this terrible
TFL
1/30/23 9:56pm
Yea the two years without CFP team they could win
Bobmarleyjr
1/29/23 7:54pm
You knock BYU for not playing a P5 in 2020. LOL. Runnin’ Yewts ran from playing.
RossoNeri
1/29/23 11:09am
It wasn’t a knock. Illustration you can knit pick any schedule
Cheese Fries
1/29/23 12:14pm
Regarding #5 - Holmoe is showing he's gonna do the exact same thing. Gone are...
COACHdrn
1/29/23 10:51am
Reality is Utah continues to trend up. Your warcries used to be:
CallSign
1/29/23 11:09am
No, the PAC has trended down. Utah's apparent improvement is just the PAC
BYUtka
1/29/23 11:13am
That’s a stretch and getting a little silly
Cheese Fries
1/29/23 12:17pm
Not a stretch at all. Honest, unbiased take based on actual results and play.
BYUtka
1/29/23 12:18pm
How are they getting worse?
UC Ute
1/29/23 12:52pm
Past few years they have absolutely been bad. Worse than MWC or AAC. Maybe they
BYUtka
1/29/23 3:39pm
I will agree the Pac-12 is trending up for sure. But how could they not be? It’s been soooo bad.
RdF3
1/29/23 3:47pm
Utah is only “top 20” because you get to play patsy teams every week. And again, this isn’t about byu vs Utah.
RdF3
1/29/23 11:21am
BYU Did quite well w a PAC 12 heavy schedule last year not as far apart
Tmoney1969
1/29/23 11:27am
Good post
Cheese Fries
1/29/23 12:17pm
2021 was still a Covid year for the PAC, 2022 a different story
CallSign
1/29/23 2:09pm
Just the PAC but not B1G 10?
Bobmarleyjr
1/29/23 2:19pm
You think playing a sprinkling of P5 games and being successful 1x suggests
CallSign
1/29/23 2:22pm
Utah hasn’t beaten byu since 2019.
RdF3
1/29/23 2:31pm
Byu has only beat Utah once in 14 years
Cheese Fries
1/29/23 3:20pm
Only because Utah has canceled the game 5 times.
mulletino
1/29/23 8:39pm
I like the Utes on here it makes it a lively discussion
Bobmarleyjr
1/29/23 11:57am
I agree. Which I decided to start talking about Utah.
RdF3
1/29/23 12:03pm
Ok. So if you include BYU, Utah since joining the Pac is collectively 16-3
TFL
1/29/23 12:37pm
SDSU was very down this year. Again, Utah looking better due to weak competition
BYUtka
1/29/23 12:44pm
Who is weaker though? Utah’s dominated both conferences. Oregon State beat both MW
TFL
1/29/23 12:57pm
TBF Oregon had 2 special team meltdowns and hurt Nix.
Bobmarleyjr
1/29/23 1:04pm
RE: TBF Oregon had 2 special team meltdowns and hurt Nix.
TReid
1/29/23 10:37pm
If they weren't "P5" and benefitting from the bias, they wouldn't be top 20.
BYUtka
1/29/23 4:01pm
This is a great argument for Utah. Well done. But the OP is talking about the
ColonelMustard
1/29/23 1:07pm
But his logic compares P12 vs. MWC to show P12 is weak. But then just do Utah vs. P12 / BYU / MW or the whole west
TFL
1/29/23 3:48pm
Try to follow along here. We know Utah is better than G5 teams, because it’s won a G5 equivalent conference two years
RdF3
1/29/23 2:38pm
Lol. But Oregon State beat both MW champs. Oregon blew BYU out in Eugene. USC blew out ND who beat both
TFL
1/29/23 7:19pm
Yeah and in 2021 USU & Utah shared 3 common opponents. Usu went 3-0, Utah went 1-2 LOL.
RdF3
1/29/23 7:26pm
What you don’t realize.
UC Ute
1/30/23 10:41am
P10/12 is a G5 Conference with an annual path to the Playoffs.
Ripliancum
1/29/23 1:00pm
A G5 has made the playoffs more recently than the pac. Pac hasn’t been in 5 year
FieroCoug
1/29/23 1:41pm
There have been lots of positives and negatives about Utah and the PAC
ALUF 1990
1/29/23 1:24pm
Really good point, win championships any way possible
Cheese Fries
1/29/23 1:29pm
LOL. What has BYU done to warrant this attitude?
hereforlaughs
1/29/23 3:16pm
Nice long post I’m not going to waste my time reading. This has nothing to do with byu & everything to do with Utah’s
RdF3
1/29/23 3:21pm
I’ll shorten for you
hereforlaughs
1/29/23 3:32pm
There isn’t anyone in CFB overhyping byu. BYU has also beaten A LOT more non pac12 p5 teams than Utah has the last 5 yrs
RdF3
1/29/23 3:36pm
LOL, what a joke
I Bleed Red
1/29/23 3:54pm
That’s my whole point. When you look under the hood Utah is vastly overrated. They’re benefitting from a patsy Pac-12.
RdF3
1/29/23 4:40pm
That’s my whole point. They’re only overrated in your world.
I Bleed Red
1/29/23 6:48pm
Maybe so. But I think I displayed statistical evidence that the Pac-12 sucks and Utah hasn’t done anything outside of it
RdF3
1/29/23 8:01pm
The only evidence you displayed is that you're biased and blinded
I Bleed Red
1/29/23 9:06pm
Add BYU’s 2021 PAC 12 South title to this list. Had BYU been in the PAC 12, they
BlooCoog
1/29/23 5:39pm
Nah...you have to beat your best win twice to win. Not just at home. I like BYU but the trip to Eugene wasn't pretty.
TFL
1/29/23 7:25pm
You dispute that BYU wouldn’t have won the PAC 12 South had they been members
BlooCoog
1/29/23 10:51pm
Wrong, your assertion is demonstrably false!
I Bleed Red
1/30/23 9:31am
Good point. I think BYU fans like the P12 argument because they won on the field vs. Utah. Like to revisit...and
TFL
1/30/23 2:30pm
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BYUhomie263
1/30/23 9:05pm
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