RE: The Big 12 turnaround from being DoA to the most likely 3rd mega conference

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Jan 30, 2023
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Monty saying that Pac 12 has a $25 MM per school deal on the table

Loafer

1/30/23 12:38pm

But Utah and Colorado did right? RIGHT?

Turnpike Lane

1/30/23 12:40pm

Colorado has a huge bill due to Prime Time. You bet they ratified it.

SinkingQuffa

1/30/23 7:10pm

I'm assuming those are teams that could bolt for greener pastures?

braddahmike

1/30/23 12:40pm

Oregon and UW to B1G and Arizonas to Big12

jrifkin48

1/30/23 1:53pm

Would love Big XII to take the Arizona schools, UNLV, and SDSU and leave Utah &

Trent

1/30/23 3:42pm

Make the Big12 the I-10 Corridor conference

jrifkin48

1/30/23 4:00pm

Unlv and sdsu are just dog crap. Don’t need them

dizthewiz

1/30/23 4:46pm

I know. It's more of a strategic move to deal a death blow to remaining PAC

Trent

1/30/23 4:56pm

Really kind of wish that would happen, or all 4 to the Big12.

BYU I Bleed Blue

1/30/23 3:42pm

Those 4 schools refusing to ratify is in line with other realignment rumors

JackStack

1/30/23 12:40pm

Monty doesn't know anything. Makes stuff up 100% of the time. And I'm

Dangerous

1/30/23 12:41pm

I've followed him a little and that is a wild exaggeration.

Bob Vance

1/30/23 1:06pm

You are incorrect

Sandy Lyle

1/30/23 3:00pm

Are you Monty?

travelcoug

1/30/23 4:17pm

I enjoy listening to Monty. If I were just a little more convinced his reporting

Florwood

1/30/23 12:43pm

His MO is to make stuff up. He doesn't know anything on PAC-12 media

Dangerous

1/30/23 12:50pm

No idea about Monty's source, but Marchand and Scheer reported ~$25m ESPN offer

tacallaway

1/30/23 1:22pm

recently?

CrashMcLarson

1/30/23 2:38pm

Has something changed?

tacallaway

1/30/23 2:43pm

All four of those school could make one call to the B12 and done at $31M+

Nat Gas Man

1/30/23 12:44pm

The Big 12 turnaround from being DoA to the most likely 3rd mega conference

Kajdin

1/30/23 2:33pm

RE: The Big 12 turnaround from being DoA to the most likely 3rd mega conference

Doogal McCougar

1/30/23 3:04pm

Monty doesn't know anything

YIsForBrigham

1/30/23 12:46pm

With that attitude, the deal just went to $22M

EEcougar

1/30/23 12:49pm

Keep it up and I will make it $15M. I've got all day mister.

dfudge

1/30/23 3:05pm

RE: Keep it up and I will make it $15M. I've got all day mister.

EEcougar

1/30/23 3:09pm

RE: Monty saying that Pac 12 has a $25 MM per school deal on the table

Doogal McCougar

1/30/23 12:50pm

Why would UO and UW want to sign a GOR?? They have to know that the BIG10 will

Windward_Coug

1/30/23 12:51pm

Because they can't go to the B1G now

krindorr

1/30/23 12:55pm

Try and leverage the pac for more of the revenue pie

I'mBatman

1/30/23 1:30pm

The real issue of the BIG is that CAL and Stanford add far more value than CFB

Nat Gas Man

1/30/23 1:35pm

Yes, Cal and Stanford would be willing to share their research grants with B10

akbarishiwatsu

1/30/23 7:27pm

The PAC is not going to get more or even the same as the Big 12

slatecoug

1/30/23 2:09pm

Ok, but that doesn't change the calculus there regarding Oregon/Washington signing a GOR

krindorr

1/30/23 4:18pm

This is very true. No matter where they go they will require at least 7 year GOR

Nat Gas Man

1/30/23 4:21pm

That's the big thing I keep coming back to on the GOR and why I'm not sure it's as big an issue as people think

krindorr

1/30/23 4:34pm

I agree. But I don’t think the LA schools want OR in the B10. OR steals recruits

Nat Gas Man

1/30/23 4:39pm

I agree with this. Oregon's (realistic) options are signing a GOR in the PAC...or signing one in the Big 12

krindorr

1/30/23 4:46pm

How about this evil plan?

akbarishiwatsu

1/30/23 7:29pm

Well thanks, but I didn't post about any of what you just posted.

slatecoug

1/31/23 4:06pm

Sorry, it was the thread of the conversation; GORs were the reason we were discussing

krindorr

1/31/23 4:20pm

I don't know how the Pac12 gets any deal done.

kccougar

1/30/23 12:54pm

Monty sure knows his audience

Huge Manatee

1/30/23 12:55pm

RE: Monty saying that Pac 12 has a $25 MM per school deal on the table

slappy

1/30/23 12:56pm

Actually given their markets, fan bases, brand identities and attendance numbers

Nat Gas Man

1/30/23 12:59pm

No idea if he's right, but that would be no surprise, especially the GOR issue.

LifeLongLakerFan

1/30/23 12:59pm

Best they will get, better take it. W/ unequal that is probably $23m for most.

panacablue

1/30/23 1:01pm

That would explain why it's taken this long.

Mister P

1/30/23 1:02pm

If Oregon and UW joined the B12, I’d imagine the pie would go up for everyone.

Bluedomination

1/30/23 1:07pm

They probably aren’t big enough to increase the pie. Once you get that many team

Nat Gas Man

1/30/23 1:13pm

This is the issue the B10 now faces how many teams are worth $50M. And no body

Nat Gas Man

1/30/23 1:25pm

G Tech has no following and isn't worth $25 Mil

slatecoug

1/30/23 2:10pm

Don’t underestimate the value of cable in GA. The BTN still works on the old

Nat Gas Man

1/30/23 2:20pm

The B1G has already done that move once when they added Rutgers and Maryland.

slatecoug

1/31/23 4:08pm

they definitely move the needle in the Big12

Hill4Heisman

1/30/23 1:48pm

If just OR and WA yea. Iirc their value was pegged at $40M. So there would be

Nat Gas Man

1/30/23 2:09pm

My guess is they'd be looking for a bigger cut of pie.

SinkingQuffa

1/30/23 3:31pm

I assume those 4 schools will announce their movement this summer.

panacablue

1/30/23 1:12pm

What do the PAC bylaws say? Conference can not stay viable with 6 members

Nat Gas Man

1/30/23 1:29pm

I believe it disbands at 8.

panacablue

1/30/23 2:08pm

Probably. There are zero MWC candidates that are even near ready for a call up

BlooCoog

1/30/23 6:29pm

For Tier 1 that would beat B12.

(Private)

1/30/23 1:40pm

It would, but comparison totally depends on amount of inventory in Tier 1

tacallaway

1/30/23 1:46pm

Guessing they would have clarified if it was only Tier 1.

LifeLongLakerFan

1/30/23 1:50pm

The original Tweet Monty is quoting discusses a Tier 1 deal.

(Private)

1/30/23 1:53pm

The two tweets are only loosely connected. $250mil is the overall number. But that's a package built on tier 1 on Prime

YIsForBrigham

1/30/23 2:11pm

Way less exposure though. No one is going to watch the 1:30pm game on Amazon

Dangerous

1/30/23 1:57pm

Ummmm

moabmax

1/30/23 2:00pm

After looking into it, I can't find a report on how the $380m B12 deal is split.

tacallaway

1/30/23 2:15pm

The relative TV payout of the PAC vs BIG12 is inconsequential

Happy As Larry

1/30/23 3:35pm

It's real interesting if Oregon and Washington are demanding unequal distribution. Then that could drive the other

YIsForBrigham

1/30/23 3:37pm

Good point. In which case the difference WOULD be significant and attractive.

Happy As Larry

1/30/23 6:02pm

Grab your popcorn folks.

BlooCoog

1/30/23 2:07pm

Monte can't make rent. Had to throw a whopper out there to keep his roof.

SinkingQuffa

1/30/23 3:44pm

Is this the REAL reason why the Big 12 hasn't released their schedule yet?.....

richvan

1/30/23 5:37pm

Here's the theme

Happy As Larry

1/30/23 6:04pm

Does "ratify" mean sign a GOR?

akbarishiwatsu

1/30/23 7:20pm

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