Does that statement control for the opponents, network, and time slots, or

Mar 21, 2023
1:55:16pm

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just against their schedule as-is?

For example, if you compare games vs MWC played on ESPN outside of prime time? Or games vs USC and Oregon on network TV during prime time?

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POLL: Which conference has more dead weight?

SouthernBlueBlood

3/21/23 1:34pm

overall or in a specific sport? Include Olympic sports?

flyzag

3/21/23 1:35pm

Has to be about football.

Cougar TD

3/21/23 1:36pm

varies

Avery

3/21/23 1:37pm

On Field, or "on screen"

Xenon

3/21/23 1:40pm

Has to be as a business partner, in the context of conference realignment, no?

Japan Coug

3/21/23 1:57pm

The problem with the Pac-10 is that the whole conference is dead weight, except

Japan Coug

3/21/23 1:46pm

depends on how you define dead weight. Washington state pulls better tv than BYU

flyzag

3/21/23 1:50pm

Does that statement control for the opponents, network, and time slots, or

Japan Coug

3/21/23 1:55pm

It's well documented on this board. WSU clearly out draws BYU in football.

flyzag

3/21/23 2:14pm

*TV ratings.. not attendance. That's why I asked to define "dead weight"

flyzag

3/21/23 2:14pm

I can't find anything. Link?

Japan Coug

3/21/23 2:29pm

Google is your friend. Here are some links

flyzag

3/21/23 2:40pm

That data is fine for measuring how many people have watched certain teams play

Japan Coug

3/21/23 3:07pm

I don't think anybody is arguing that WSU is a bigger TV draw than USC, UO, or

flyzag

3/21/23 4:51pm

I guess what I'm saying is I'm not so sure they are a pretty good draw for TV

Japan Coug

3/21/23 5:22pm

But that’s not what the data says. You can research it. I don’t need to convince

flyzag

3/21/23 9:52pm

I haven’t seen any data indicating that they are a big TV draw on their own. If

Japan Coug

3/21/23 9:54pm

Well then:

flyzag

3/22/23 8:59am

Who were the other two games against, and on what networks and at what time?

Japan Coug

3/22/23 9:06am

You're completely missing the point. Again. Nobody is saying Wazzu is bigger

flyzag

3/22/23 9:13am

Well, there’s a good chance they they’ll end up in a G5 conference if the PAC

Japan Coug

3/22/23 9:38am

RE: Who were the other two games against, and on what networks and at what time?

flyzag

3/22/23 9:23am

It's frankly impossible to control for everything, but most efforts do put Wazzu ahead

krindorr

3/21/23 2:43pm

The problem is that if you don't control for some of those things, to some

Japan Coug

3/21/23 2:55pm

That's fair...but then the reverse also applies

krindorr

3/21/23 3:12pm

OK, but I think BYU is in a higher tier than you think we are, if this is meant

Japan Coug

3/21/23 6:12pm

A few issues there

krindorr

3/21/23 6:45pm

Looking just at football last year it has to be either the P12 or the ACC

jreid191

3/21/23 1:53pm

define "dead weight" is it on field performance? Attendance? TV ratings? They

flyzag

3/21/23 2:16pm

This is true. Poll question didn't specify. This is strictly base off of

jreid191

3/21/23 2:33pm

Purdue, Indiana, northwestern, Minnesota Rutgers, Maryland

Swish

3/21/23 2:19pm

Rutgers and Maryland. Illinois is more dead weight than any other school you

Ski-U-Mah

3/21/23 3:47pm

Pac 12’s deadweight is the teams CB wants to add to the Big 12

GlutealGuy

3/21/23 2:21pm

Strategically, I think many feel it's worth adding some dead weight to destroy

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