I agree to a degree. NIL may help a little, but HC is a significant hurdle to

Mar 30, 2023
3:27:03pm

PhilPete Political Junky

most non LDS young men coming into college. I think BYU will spend most of its time on the upper part of the middle third of the league and the lower part of the top third after the five year mark in the league.

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Yikes. BYU to be the Northwestern of the Big 12

DataMouth

3/30/23 3:24pm

My thoughts are that I don’t care about that guy’s opinion.

DieHarder

3/30/23 3:25pm

such an eyeroll cougarboard response

COUGALICIOUS

3/30/23 3:54pm

I don’t care about your opinion either.

DieHarder

3/30/23 4:30pm

Yeah, actually you do. Just a little. Enough to respond. Thx for letting us know

Atmospheric_Cougar

3/30/23 4:43pm

I don’t care about your opinion either.

DieHarder

3/30/23 4:45pm

RE: I don’t care about your opinion either.

NorCal_Coug

3/30/23 4:50pm

RE: I don’t care about your opinion either.

Atmospheric_Cougar

3/30/23 4:54pm

My thoughts

DataMouth

3/30/23 3:25pm

We don't get the luxury of a Pac 12 schedule anymore

NVblue

3/30/23 6:29pm

The beauty of the BigXII is that you can say that same thing about all the

BYUHgrad

3/30/23 7:21pm

Big12 hierarchy in CFP era (reg season only)

puntersarepeople

3/30/23 8:16pm

Why are you convinced that recruiting won't improve? We've lost many potential

TailgateU

3/30/23 8:44pm

Not sure all was P5, on D a lot was scheme and coaching.

Blue for Life

3/31/23 6:31am

We've lost a handful per year due to P5 status, guys who liked almost everything

TailgateU

3/31/23 6:46am

That seems correct, there is no reason we should be a bad team more often than

puntersarepeople

3/30/23 8:49pm

I’d be happy with 50/50 good years vs bad. Big 12 is going to be tough.

Bad Plus Fan

3/30/23 10:37pm

Could be right, could be wrong. It's why they play the game and we buy the tickets.

Soupie

3/30/23 3:26pm

Hed be right except for the LDS kid and Poly recruiting Northwestern doesnt have

Turnpike Lane

3/30/23 3:26pm

I agree to a degree. NIL may help a little, but HC is a significant hurdle to

PhilPete

3/30/23 3:27pm

Nil isn’t helping byu lure top recruits

I'mBatman

3/30/23 4:34pm

There's enough top LDS talent to upgrade our recruiting — the only question is how much of that top end talent

Indy Coug

3/30/23 3:27pm

That’s garbage. Look at Our record against P5 last 5 years, it will only

Scott_Tenorman

3/30/23 3:28pm

Except now the P5s will be B12 instead Conf of Chumpions.

Soupie

3/30/23 3:29pm

Ok fine, most years will be middle of road. But we def won’t be cellar dwellers

Scott_Tenorman

3/30/23 3:33pm

Also check record vs B12 over 20 years. Also, over .500. Off the top of my

Scott_Tenorman

3/30/23 3:39pm

Here's what I expect...

lbmango

3/30/23 3:41pm

No Way, he's obviously not dialed in very well. BYU is a much better program

1CougFan

3/30/23 5:34pm

meant for OP

1CougFan

3/30/23 5:34pm

Northwestern played for big ten championship in last 5 or 6 years.

cwilke1

3/30/23 3:28pm

1 of every 6 yrs in Championship is best case scenario. I mostly disagree

Plato

3/30/23 3:32pm

I didn't look before posting that. Finished top of the pack 2 and bottom 4

DataMouth

3/30/23 3:34pm

Doubt we are cellar dwellars that often

puntersarepeople

3/30/23 4:04pm

Just as long as they aren’t the Indiana of the Big 12

Tare

3/30/23 3:29pm

No way!! We have the mission advantage 🙂

DreamerCoug

3/30/23 3:30pm

*trip*

md7Coug

3/30/23 3:52pm

I’ve always said try like heck to be Kansas St

dixieutahbyuzag

3/30/23 3:30pm

Possible. I do worry about being the Vanderbilt, NW, Rutgers of the B12 but hope

Forzaitalia

3/30/23 3:36pm

I don't see BYU being as horrid as Northwestern has been last few years.

Bossk82

3/30/23 3:38pm

There's one thing that distinguishes BYU: QB Play

CaliWG

3/30/23 3:39pm

Thoughts? - He obviously hasn't been paying attention and deserves none of yours

AltTabbins

3/30/23 3:40pm

I talked to a guy at work who said we'd be the ALABAMA of the Big12

rotorhead

3/30/23 3:42pm

Exactly what I would expect from someone that attended those schools....

ordinary tri guy

3/30/23 3:46pm

Whatever. Exclude Utah and hasn't BYU been over .500 vs P5 the past 12 years?

mulletino

3/30/23 3:52pm

The problem might be most of our "P5" wins might be "WAC" wins in a year or two

md7Coug

3/30/23 3:54pm

RE: The problem might be most of our "P5" wins might be "WAC" wins in a year or two

mulletino

3/30/23 3:57pm

My concern is will we be spending the money in the same way as other schools?

Blue for Life

3/30/23 7:58pm

Just for the record- Northwestern HAS WON the Rosebowl.

PJMort

3/30/23 3:56pm

i'll take it

claw

3/30/23 3:58pm

Pretty fair.

Backcountry

3/30/23 3:59pm

This guy is stupid. Don't listen to him-- look at the past few years

puntersarepeople

3/30/23 4:02pm

BYU will never be a Northwestern. It was a dumb comparison.

Benfica1

3/30/23 8:05pm

I think we're ISU or OKSU probably

puntersarepeople

3/30/23 9:14pm

Sounds reasonable

kotacoug

3/30/23 4:04pm

Chicago resident, no chance BYU looks like a 'Big12 Northwestern'

LargeTalons

3/30/23 4:06pm

I don't think our recruiting will dramatically improve. I think it will

GSwarriorcoug

3/30/23 4:10pm

Our recruiting right now has actually been really bad from a ratings standpoint

puntersarepeople

3/30/23 4:30pm

I agree. Which is why I said we'd be in the middle of the

GSwarriorcoug

3/31/23 1:13am

We should be bowl eligible 5 out of 6 years.

JasonJDelmonico

3/30/23 4:12pm

you can't be a "tough out" but be the bottom of the conference

Hill4Heisman

3/30/23 4:19pm

yes you can if the team loses a lot of close games. A close loss is a clear

cwilke1

3/30/23 4:23pm

And those typically go 50/50 over time. So 4-5 or 5-4 in conference isn’t dead last.

mulletino

3/30/23 4:44pm

over a huge sample size they can even out. no guarantees that within a single

cwilke1

3/31/23 6:36am

Yes which also means the close games will also swing in our favor on occasion.

mulletino

3/31/23 7:54am

Better to be Northwestern than Indiana or Colorado

akbarishiwatsu

3/30/23 4:29pm

I think we’ll be average. Mostly middling with some really good and bad years.

canofpicante

3/30/23 4:36pm

I think we'll spend more time in the middle of the pack than at the bottom...

icecougar

3/30/23 4:41pm

Kalani is very reliant on his coordinators . . .

puntersarepeople

3/30/23 5:20pm

figuring out the injury bug is the next big hurdle IMO

1CougFan

3/30/23 5:43pm

Yeah, I’m not really sure who we have at that position right now and if it is

puntersarepeople

3/30/23 6:36pm

hopefully the new S&C coaches will be difference makers there

icecougar

3/30/23 7:18pm

You give KS too much credit.

coolblue

3/30/23 6:22pm

he's following the Lavell model...

icecougar

3/30/23 7:17pm

No idea but while I personally don't think the level of our top talent

CougaRR4L

3/30/23 5:19pm

BYU has never been as consistently weak as NW. The B12 isn't as tough as the

Jasbo

3/30/23 7:21pm

Sounds like an opinion from a guy who knows nothing about BYU

andrewg3

3/30/23 7:58pm

RE: Yikes. BYU to be the Northwestern of the Big 12

BringYourUltimate

3/30/23 8:13pm

Okay to be Northwestern

akbarishiwatsu

3/31/23 11:18am

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