also remember reading comments from numerous BYU defensive commits who felt ...

Jun 2, 2023
2:51:40pm

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...that BYU defensive coaches didn't stay connected to them after the commit, meanwhile other schools kept working on recruiting them and this was a factor in several de-committing from BYU to go elsewhere.

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Damning information about former defensive staff from Jeff Hansen.

yorksama

6/2/23 10:37am

I'm so excited to be done with that chapter and on to the new coaches. They could be really good for us.

Rise Against

6/2/23 10:39am

It was a long chapter that most fans wanted to quit reading 6 years ago, but the editor wouldn’t get rid of the author

Greg Kite's 'stache

6/2/23 10:40am

Greg Kite and his stache would be proud of this comment

Mr. Rumsfield

6/2/23 8:13pm

A brief summary:

ldssdl

6/2/23 10:45am

And no fight to win the best athletes translated to no fight on the field. 🙁🙁🙁🙁

BleedCougarBlue2

6/2/23 11:19am

Clarification: That “no fight on the field” was aimed at Tuiaki not the players.

BleedCougarBlue2

6/2/23 8:52pm

Ena was with Anderson at USU (2nd time around)

fattycoug

6/2/23 11:27am

That is infuriating

machete

6/2/23 11:32am

Wow, shouldn’t competing offers make you more interested in a prospect?

hardcorecoug

6/2/23 12:56pm

also remember reading comments from numerous BYU defensive commits who felt ...

icecougar

6/2/23 2:51pm

The breathless defense of Tuiaki & Co from some on CB is something that never

runitup590

6/2/23 10:47am

Those people were deceived by "Watermelon Stats" our defense was putting up.

BYUtka

6/2/23 10:53am

Exactly.

kotacoug

6/2/23 11:21am

What about the HC…stack him right in there. Why does he get a pass?

rmarkerm

6/2/23 12:59pm

I clung to hope for Kalani but at the end of last year I flipped and was in the

runitup590

6/2/23 1:22pm

Guilty as charged.

YOHONOMOTO

6/2/23 2:29pm

Based on those two takes I would agree.

Atmospheric_Cougar

6/2/23 3:27pm

RE: The breathless defense of Tuiaki & Co from some on CB is something that

sah22

6/2/23 8:41pm

What's more nauseating are those that can't let this go. Bro is gone. Live in

OldFogey

6/2/23 11:27pm

He wasn't calling out Tuiaki, but those who incessantly supported him on CB

sah22

6/3/23 5:07am

RE: He wasn't calling out Tuiaki, but those who incessantly supported him on CB

OldFogey

6/3/23 9:42am

The new staff better be really good because the head of the snake is still the

byubyu

6/2/23 10:50am

If the biggest issues were with recruiting, it will take 3-5 years for the new

ldssdl

6/2/23 11:03am

Recruiting was only one issue of many.

byubyu

6/2/23 11:07am

With the transfer portal, the delay won't be as severe. We can and are seeing immediate improvements.

Rise Against

6/2/23 11:10am

Transfer portal would like a word

Dark Forest Green

6/2/23 11:12am

Not really

ImDaBear

6/2/23 1:37pm

Kalani knew he couldn't hire this staff before. The D payroll is 3x what it was

fulano

6/2/23 11:24am

Ridiculous...he had enough money to fire tuiaki if he wanted.

runnincoug

6/2/23 11:31am

That sounds extremely lazy and on par for a Kalani staff.

byubyu

6/2/23 11:32am

That doesn't explain why KS never stepped in to improve the situation

vegas guey

6/2/23 12:04pm

BYU and Co was 21-4 over 2 seasons, you can't fire a coach after those 2 years

ImDaBear

6/2/23 1:38pm

You're right. What you should be doing is hiring a replacement because the

Y05

6/2/23 4:34pm

That's exactly the sort of thing the best coaches do, demand even more. IIRC

Plato

6/3/23 1:22am

Alabama has a few more resources than byu

FieroCoug

6/4/23 6:55pm

Exactly, still irks me Tuiaki had to resign. If he was that bad he should have

MrSandman

6/3/23 12:49am

Semantics. Sitake will usually choose the option of trying to cause less

BYUlv

6/3/23 9:53am

Well the optics to the public looked like he kept a terrible defense going

MrSandman

6/3/23 12:24pm

I don't disagree with you. Just isn't the way Kalani likes to do business.

BYUlv

6/3/23 11:31pm

And the same head of the snake in the last 3 years has multiple top 25 finishes

FieroCoug

6/3/23 4:02pm

And nothing the past 3 years is any worse than anything we’ve seen since Lavell

puntersarepeople

6/3/23 4:08pm

We’ll he’s also the head of the snake for some of the best offensive BYU teams

puntersarepeople

6/2/23 1:43pm

And if performs extremely well he could get a major promotion: HC

MrSandman

6/3/23 12:48am

The Lamb/Tuiaki era of BYU football is one I wish I could forget immediately.

Ham

6/2/23 10:52am

That doesnt seem to reflect well on Kalani having let that happen....

BYUfan92

6/2/23 10:52am

Yeah, he needed to make the change much sooner but then Zach showed

CougGolf

6/2/23 10:58am

Winners always try to get better. Hope KS learned from the situation.

kotacoug

6/2/23 11:24am

Right but consistent winners don’t take dumb risks either.

FieroCoug

6/4/23 4:48pm

I agree but can't take him seriously

shakarocks

6/2/23 10:53am

ok, now I am curious. What is he doing wrong?

Turd Ferguson

6/2/23 11:18am

The Blue is a side-address microphone not front-address.

shakarocks

6/2/23 11:20am

thanks

Turd Ferguson

6/2/23 12:14pm

The previous staff should have been let go years ago....

Coug

6/2/23 11:20am

Things changed a ton since 2020…just not in a good way

moknowssports

6/2/23 7:14pm

Fair although giving them a raise makes the PR much better to let them go

puntersarepeople

6/3/23 1:40pm

I mean ya we’ve been saying this all along. Lazy Yewt recruiting and crappy

kotacoug

6/2/23 11:20am

Wasn't Kalani in charge of the defense?

ochobeeguy

6/2/23 11:23am

And the much maligned fans saw it but Kalani didn’t /ignored it!

Lombardi

6/2/23 11:26am

Where are Cougzilla and Benfica to defend Lamb and Tuiaki?

CameronG

6/2/23 11:36am

I'll do it..

TheLost

6/2/23 11:54am

Here are just a few of the guys I know of that Lamb and Tuiaki backed off once the other schools came calling:

Rise Against

6/2/23 12:00pm

You can add Waller to that list as well. It was a complete disaster.

ordinary tri guy

6/2/23 12:04pm

RE: Here are just a few of the guys I know of that Lamb and Tuiaki backed off once the other schools came calling:

TheLost

6/2/23 12:10pm

Kalani recruited Esera personally. Mounga is G5 talent, which is much better than we’ve been getting at that position.

CrimWalCoug

6/2/23 12:21pm

RE: Kalani recruited Esera personally. Mounga is G5 talent, which is much better than we’ve been getting at that

TheLost

6/2/23 3:51pm

Not true on Nate. He would have been more interested but Ed and Tuiaki didn't give him any attention, didn't

Rise Against

6/2/23 12:31pm

Akana came on an unofficial and Hadley had zero idea who he was

arizonacougarfan

6/2/23 5:54pm

Add the Hawaii kids from last year. Lamb and Tuiaki hardly recruited them

arizonacougarfan

6/2/23 5:58pm

They also didn’t try very hard with Clegg

arizonacougarfan

6/2/23 6:01pm

They didn’t even bother recruiting Taggart out of high school. Good thing Hill

arizonacougarfan

6/2/23 6:02pm

I'm sorry but there is ZERO reason to back off a recruit because that recruit is being recruited by others...

Coug

6/2/23 12:10pm

I just can't envision recruiting 16 players in 2022 with no competing offers

Dr T-bone

6/2/23 12:25pm

Board name checks out.

BYUlv

6/3/23 9:55am

People seem to forget that BYU couldn’t get someone like Jay Hill before BigXII

Skipshot

6/2/23 11:47am

So get a different up and coming defensive coach looking for an opportunity.

BYUtka

6/2/23 11:59am

I'm going to have to review the film before commenting.

BYUFBDAD

6/2/23 12:28pm

The recruiting philosophy that the defensive staff was implementing was 100%

wildlandfireguy

6/2/23 1:19pm

Kalani let this happen. Foolish.

Idacoug

6/2/23 2:47pm

All well and good but the only evidence I need is 9 punt returns all season.

stonecougar

6/2/23 3:00pm

Jeff Hansen and a bunch of lower level coaches saw obvious issues with BYU but somehow Kalani didn’t? Not a good look

Zach Morris

6/2/23 3:00pm

Don't forget fans.

Ham

6/2/23 3:02pm

Listen, everyone has blind spots. Kalani has blind spots too in the form of

stonecougar

6/2/23 3:07pm

Has Tuiaki been hired by another program yet?

WillsPitStop

6/2/23 4:28pm

CB hates anonymous sources so this is obviously all false

macdizzle

6/2/23 6:19pm

can you people let go?

Beetdiggercoug

6/2/23 9:30pm

I'm excited for the new defense - just can't dig this fans know better attitude

Ice King

6/2/23 9:54pm

Is it really just a “fans know better attitude” His defense was objectively bad.

Metallicat

6/2/23 10:05pm

No you don’t. Logical people would agree. I don’t need to be a professional chef

Atmospheric_Cougar

6/2/23 10:19pm

Exactly. Have always hated the “you’ve never coached, you don’t know” attitude

Resurgens

6/3/23 1:35pm

Ultimately it’s on Sitake and Holmoe.

panacablue

6/3/23 5:37am

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